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There is no treason!

Stop it. Just stop it! 

I get it. You hate Trump. You think he never should have been elected. You think he’s a terrible president, completely unsuited for the White House, and this latest revelation that he shared sensitive information provided to the United States by the Israelis to the Russians confirms your assertion that he is dangerous and should never be trusted with classified information. 

I get it. The glaring hypocrisy of Republicans cheering as former Trump National Security Adviser Michael Flynn led chants of “lock her up!” at the Republican National Convention last year for her spilling classified SAP information on unclassified email (something he inappropriately did himself in 2010 without authorization), even as they defend the current revelation about the information provided to the Russians, is a bit much. 

But let’s get something straight here: it’s NOT treason!

Stop screaming “TREASON” from the rooftops. It shows you don’t have a clue about the legal definition of the word, and it shows your lack of understanding about how classified information is released and declassified.

My friend Charlie Martin a few days ago correctly explained the meaning of “treason” as described in the Constitution. 

Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.

The Congress shall have Power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or Forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attainted.

Not a single report asserts that the President did any of this. He certainly did not levy war against the United States, and he certainly did not give aid and comfort to the enemy. 

He met with high-level officials from a country that’s admittedly an adversary, as is his prerogative as the leader of this country. We are not at war with Russia, even though we’ve certainly seen references to Cold War 2.0. And let’s remember one very important fact:

THE PRESIDENT IS THE ULTIMATE CLASSIFICATION AUTHORITY. As the Supreme Court ruled in 1988 in Department of the Navy vs. Egan, “His authority to classify and control access to information bearing on national security and to determine whether an individual is sufficiently trustworthy to occupy a position in the Executive Branch that will give that person access to such information flows primarily from this constitutional investment of power in the President...” 

Don’t believe me? Read the 2009 Executive Order 13526

Technically and legally Trump did nothing “improper.” The White House said as much, and that is a fact. He did not reveal sources and methods, and he did not endanger any military operations. 

Depending on what kind of information was revealed, it was likely ill advised, and it was probably obvious where it came from. It could damage our intelligence-sharing relationships. Reports are that the sensitive information about an ISIS laptop plot came from the Israelis, and that they’re not happy about the President’s unilateral decision to share it with Russia. 

The Israeli Ambassador, however, publicly lauded his country’s relationship with the United States. Fact is we just don’t know what kind of impact this will have on our relationships with other nations’ intelligence services – and won’t, because we will never know what they won’t share. 

We do know that in the era of WikiLeaks and Snowden and Manning, our own intelligence agencies are more loath to share information among themselves – one of the problems highlighted in the 9-11 Commission’s report. I can’t imagine our allies won’t have similar concerns. Manning’s leaks certainly impacted our efforts in Afghanistan and endangered lives. 

I can see our allies’ logic if they do decide to limit the information they share: the United States can’t even keep a pissant, sniveling private from bringing a Lady Gaga CD into a SCIF and copying classified information, and their President just casually drops sensitive information to an adversary; why should we trust them to safeguard ours?

That said, your puerile screeching about treason makes you sound like uninformed dolts, and the fact that he is legally authorized to release and declassify information, makes his conversation – no matter how ill advised – is not an impeachable offense. 

The more you vomit about reason and impeachment in this case, the more you sabotage your own credibility. 

So just STOP IT!

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28 responses

  1. Exactly!

    You can argue the wisdom of the move, but to call it treason is to fail to understand the laws of the United States.

    Meanwhile, there are some journalists out there like Louise Mensch who have trumpeted this whole treason nonsense, I believe mostly because she wants it to be true so much.

    Meanwhile, I keep finding myself feeling like I need to defend the man who I don’t particularly even like as president.

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    1. We’re really referring to Mensch as a “journalist” now rather than “hysterical, blathering sow?”

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      1. Sorry, I meant to put the word in quotation marks.

        Seriously, the woman is unhinged and I pray that the people who love her will stage an intervention and get her the help she so desperately needs.

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        1. In the form of a Thorazine drip.

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        2. Honestly, I really do think it would take something like that.

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        3. 100 or more grains of Plumbnum IC.

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    2. Meanwhile, I keep finding myself feeling like I need to defend the man who I don’t particularly even like as president.

      In that respect, the difference between this President and Bush Jr. is a difference in degree, not in kind.

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      1. True enough.

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  2. I don’t understand the whole circus. It is the administration’s responsibility to manage foreign relations. If the administration decided that Russia needed to know about this information then it is not a crime, in fact it is necessary and proper and laudable to tell them. I don’t know enough context to judge if this was a bad idea. I can invent all sorts of commentary about what Mossad will do or won’t do, what FSB will do or won’t do, NSA, FBI, NRO, the Cub Scouts, and my mother’s bridge club. Whatever. Like the Mossad cares what I think – now there is a laugh. Yeah whatever.

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    1. The entire circus is, take any lame excuse to rant against Trump.

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      1. Which is pretty much ‘what the cool kids do’ as opposed to rational, reasonable, responsible adults do.

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  3. It’s cute how the MSM can’t spot a counter intel/mole hunt operation.

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  4. I see a lot of people reacting to Trump the way Chief Inspector Dreyfus reacted to Inspector Clouseau at the end of The Return of the Pink Panther.

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    1. You to? Except it’s rather more dramatic than merely a bad twitch..
      Louder and more hysterical.

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  5. Reblogged this on Musings From A Cranky Conservative and commented:
    People need to let go of this irrational need to destroy the Presidency of Mr. Trump, I get that you loathe the fact that he won the Presidency but the level of vitriol that he has been subjected to is unreasonable. The way that people and organizations have worked to obstruct his every move and declare his every statement or action as Presidential overreach is disgusting. I am deeply upset and angry, but not at the President.
    I firmly believe that he is trying to his best to fulfill the office of President and would do a reasonable job if given the opportunity. That he may never have that opportunity is a given, this gives rise to what is the far greater problem in all this disruption, the damage to the country. That all the agitation, protesting and rioting.
    The Congress is not passing any legislation on the Trump Agenda that he campaigned upon which I am sure is cause for celebration in the Democratic Caucus.

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    1. Mark,

      Next year, the democrats want to stand up and say, “this guy has an outrageous goal and the country did not support him – look at what he has done in the last 2 years and all of the umbrage piled on him by the voters. Vote for Us, We Will Be Better!” It is a winning ticket. It has worked forever.

      During the Vietnam War, the bad guys would sneak into town, plant a bomb that would then blow up and kill and maim a bunch of people. Then they would announce that people were dying from the bombings because the government didn’t control the country. And EVERYONE knew that the guys attacking the government in the press were the same guys who planted the bombs. Guess who won that war. Guess who won in Iraq – same setup.

      The press and the democrats have to be identified as the political terrorists that they are. If that happens, at least the smart people won’t vote for them.

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  6. So, wait, he leaked info that was an open secret (published in the DAILY FAIL of all places) back in March?

    So I guess the source wasn’t the Yemani Raid where a Navy SEAL was killed.

    Multiple sources, but here’s the Daily Fail.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4337982/Laptop-ban-based-intelligence-ISIS-plot.html

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    1. There was more to the info he shared with the Russians than what was reported. It WAS NOT a “leak.” The President is the highest classification authority in the United States. He is legally authorized to share information with whomever he damn pleases.

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      1. Yup. I just find it highly amusing that they’re freaking out over data that has been in the wild for over a month. He might have given the Russians more. But the OMG!!!!!!! DAESH COMPUTER PLOT!!!!! Hysterics is getting a little much.

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  7. They just don’t seem to get the whole ‘ultimate classifying authority’ thing and need it explained….

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    1. It’s not that they don’t know, it’s that they don’t care.

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  8. The more you vomit about reason and impeachment in this case, the more you sabotage your own credibility.

    So just STOP IT!

    Nope, harder faster louder. The stupider they act the better for us.

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    1. LOL my problem is I cannot stand to listen to them anymore! Makes me want to punch people.

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      1. It is now time for the democrats to attack the party in power and the republicans simply cannot help themselves – we have to help the democrats understand why they lost. PLEASE JUST STOP!!! In my opinion, the Obama years were really bad government. Helping the democrats to understand how to win again is not a good goal. The republicans will make the same mistakes of hubris that comfortable governments always make and the democrats will win elections. Don’t help the democrats. Help the republicans have a good government and, who knows, maybe we can win some more.

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  9. ‘Splodey laptops? That’s nothing new. Per my fellow travelers elsewhere, ‘splodey laptops have been a ‘thing’ since about 2006. What’s the big deal?

    Seriously, these hysterical, panic-stricken people who have access to the internet and cannot control their emotions really need to get a grip. Gee whiz, when Krushchev visited the US of A in 1959, he spent some serious face time with Trick Dick Nixon, the then-Veep, in what was essentially a mockup of a house cut in half, and their discussions took place in the kitchen set.
    http://adst.org/2015/07/nixon-vs-khrushchev-the-1959-kitchen-debate/

    Krushchev’s visit to the USA came a few years after the death of Stalin. It was a Republican administration until the next election season.
    http://adst.org/2013/10/khrushchev-visits-america-a-cold-war-comedy-of-errors-act-i/

    I know I’m regressing but I do wish that the more real-world sensibilities of the 1950s would somehow work their way back into my life.

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    1. There’s more that was revealed than what’s been reported about exploding laptops. Come on!

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  10. Meh. If Mike Flynn was leaking classified info, he can go to jail with the rest of the Clinton crime syndicate.

    On the other hand, while I don’t have a good reason for it, my gut judgment is much harsher on Mrs. Clinton, who carelessly put official secrets at risk in order to keep her personal cash flow going, than any damnfool wanna-be whistle-blower who leaks classified secrets to the press. Not sure why this is.

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    1. It is a FACT that Flynn shared classified info without authorization. Mattis booted him from CENTCOM for it. But as it supposedly didn’t cause any damage to national security, he was not prosecuted.

      This shit is a lot worse.

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