Dragon Awards: the Aftermath and Beyond

I was going to ridicule Lena Dunham today, but screw her! The Dragon Awards have been announced, and they’re fantastic!!!

First, let me explain. DragonCon took place this weekend in Atlanta, where the very first awards for science fiction and fantasy were presented. The awards were completely fan-driven. You registered. You received a ballot. You voted for your favorites. Your vote was recorded. The winners were announced today! That easy.

Like the Dragon, our recipients are extraordinary and unique. Fueled by the passion for their art, they have spread their wings and soared above us all. Their inner fire, the burning in their hearts and souls, cannot be restrained. Once set free, their work, their fire, has influenced and inspired countless others, burned into our hearts and minds forever.

In the spirit of the Dragon and with infinite admiration, we created The Dragon Award as a token of their individuality and greatness. We are pleased to present all of our award winners with the essence of the Dragon, its fire, suspended perpetually as a permanent reminder of their contributions.

Dragon_Award-221x300There’s no cliquish “No Award” for nominees that didn’t fit a particular mold. There are no nomination rule changes designed to counter bloc voting keep out undesirables.

Fans vote for their favorite. That’s it.

And this year is epic! I’m so excited for some friends of mine, I could squee! There are some categories in which I didn’t vote, because I hadn’t read any of the works, and I don’t play video games or role playing games, but overall, this was terrific! Fans voted for their favorite artists, authors, and works based on what they liked – a truly fan-driven, fan-awarded endeavor.

  • Best Science Fiction Novel: Somewither by John C. Wright.
  • Best Fantasy Novel: Son of the Black Sword by Larry Correia.
  • Best Teen/Middle Grade: Shepherd’s Crown by Terry Pratchett.
  • Best Military SF/F: Hell’s Foundations Quiver by David Weber.
  • Best Alternative History: League of Dragons by Naomi Novik.
  • Best Apocalyptic Novel: Ctrl Alt Revolt! by Nick Cole.
  • Best Horror: Souldancer by Brian Niemeier.
  • Comic Book: Ms. Marvel
  • Graphic Novel: The Sandman Overture by Neil Gaiman.
  • Best TV show: Game of Thrones
  • Best Movie: The Martian.
  • Best PC/Console Video Game: Fallout 4.
  • Best Mobile Game: Fallout Shelter.
  • Best Board Game: Pandemic Legacy.
  • Best RPG/Collectible/Card Game: Call of Cthulhu.

I just spoke with Nick Cole on Facebook. I have never seen anyone so excited, and I’m SO happy for him! If you haven’t read Ctrl Alt Revolt, go read it. Do yourselves a favor.  He’s great!

Nick Cole: So excited!!!! And thank you thank you thank you for your vote! I never win! What a day!!!!’

Nicki Kenyon: I’m currently imagining you hopping up and down. LOL! Awesome news!

Nick Cole: I was! My wife was doing cheerleader kicks!!!

And do know that Nick was facing some stiff competition, including from a novel I absolutely loved – Marina Fontaine’s “Chasing Freedom,” so you know it had to be good!

I’m so happy for both of them! Both are brilliant authors, so go and read!

I’m not a fan of Game of Thrones. I fell asleep when I tried to watch it. Not my thing. But I know a lot of others like the show, so more power to them!

honorFor Best Horror, I actually voted for Declan Finn’s “Honor at Stake,” and while he didn’t get the award, it’s a book I highly recommend you read. Declan first sent me a copy right before I went in for surgery, knowing I would be laid up and hungry for reading material. I’m SO grateful he did!

I will say, I’m not a vampire fan. Much like zombies, the genre is horribly overdone and difficult to do well and originally, so it takes a lot for me to enjoy a vampire story.

But Declan approached it from a different point of view. He examined the mythology from the perspective of a Catholic, and a doctor. He posed a plausible medical explanations for vampirism and for good vice bad vampires from a religious context.

The sociopath and the vampire – two characters you would expect to be evil (or anticipate one of them would sparkle, if you’re into that sort of thing) – are completely antithetical to what you would anticipate. Their actions define them, not their thoughts or their “nature.” I kind of like that.

evil laughBut putting all of that aside, Declan’s story is fun! It’s fast-paced. It’s action-filled. It’s sweet at times. It’s enjoyable, and it’s not over! There’s another on the way. *insert evil, satisfied laugh here*

If I have one criticism, it’s that the way he wrote the Russian character isn’t exactly accurate, both in language and in speech. But being from that part of the world, I’m picky.

Pick it up. You’ll enjoy it. Trust me.

I’m also experiencing tingly sensations at the fact that Larry Correia – the International Lord of Hate himself – has won the award for best Fantasy Novel! I have “Son of a Black Sword” in hardcover, vice in electronic form. The reviews – deservedly so – are stellar! On Amazon, 78 percent of reviews gave the novel five stars, and an additional 15 percent gave it four stars. Of the one-star reviews one admitted they didn’t read the book, because the Kindle version was too expensive. Another one thought he’d be smart and give it one star for keeping the reader on the edge of his seat! And a third claimed the book was too “sad.”

It’s interesting to note that when fans are legitimately given the opportunity to vote for the works they enjoy, there’s no “No Award.” There’s no wooden assholes. There’s no chortling, cackling CHORFs, snottily snickering how they kept the undesirables at bay.

There are fans. They vote for what they like, and the writers, artists, cinematographers, and others reap the benefits – the gratitude of thousands of fans, who enjoyed the work and wanted to reward their faves with recognition.

And that will inevitably cause the CHORFs to clutch their pearls, gnash their teeth, and snottily declare that the Dragon Awards don’t matter, because they’re not part of that elite clique of haughty Hugo recipients and nominees. They will mumble about how the pathetic Sad Puppies got so trounced, they had to go and start an award of their own, even though that’s a ridiculous contention. There will be slander in the press and on social media. Don’t believe me? It’s starting already. From File 770:

Gee, an award put together by puppies, was awarded to puppies.

Color me shocked. SHOCKED!

Here’s some sour grapes for you from the same site.

Good. The Puppies have been saying since these were first announced that they would be the “real” awards as far as they were concerned. They get to give each other awards, they’ll hopefully leave the rest of us alone, everyone wins. And as it’s a new award, there’s no cultural expectation getting in their way. They can talk on their own blogs about how the Hugos are irrelevant, and we can ignore them.

And more unfounded accusations from the CHORF set, because RABIDPUPPIESSADPUPPIES!

Congratulations to VD. Now he has found an award that actually is run by a cabal (albeit his cabal), maybe he’ll fuck off and leave the Hugo’s alone.

I encourage everyone to go look at the opening page of Somewhither on Amazon. Shocking piece of sophomoric crap.

For Puppies by Puppies, as mentioned above.

Evidence? Screw your evidence? Let’s make caustic accusations without a shred of proof to back them up, because we weren’t a part of this, and because we didn’t get our chance to castigate the puppies (whom we see as a boogie man under every bed) with “No Awards” to prove our superiority.

And then we have this mutant.

crazy

pearlsIt’s all good. I expect these bitter, sad little howler monkeys to hurl their acrimonious turds. It’s what they do in between pearl clutching and insulting those evil non-enlightened juvenile canines with wooden assholes.

It’s about time a real fan award took center stage. Congratulations to all the winners, and the Hugos can keep the assterisks.

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  1. When I opened FB this morning and saw all the winners I grinned from ear to ear with jubilation. This is awesome. At last, an award that is honest. As storytellers, we are not supposed to compete for grandness. Our sole purpose is to entertain. And if we do it right, readers will let us know. Congratulations to all the winners. Well deserved!

    Oh, and to those daft enough to actually think this is a puppy award…projection much?

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    1. Of course it’s projection. They cannot allow the intrusion of a reality where their word isn’t divine declaration, nor can they imagine that anyone does different from what they do. Let them project.

      The more they scream, the more they reveal.

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      1. I know. They’re not even trying to hide it anymore, but then, I suspect most of them are mortally sad and unable to find joy in life. And life is short and books are there to be enjoyed. And here I am, enjoying writing and reading them, all with a fat grin on my face.

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        1. Yeah. The rest of us actually have a life. Even the ones of us who are borderline hikkikomori.

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        2. We have our minds to thank for that. I’m never lonely even if I’m alone. Actually, to be honest, that was true a couple of years ago. I have three kids now. These days I rarely get to escape. :-p

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        3. Shh. You just have to pounce on them before they launch their sneak attacks.

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        4. Not so easy with my tribe. Trust me. I have ply them with food and technology to buy time. Alternatively, I use the “Chores time!” battle cry. The effect is immediate. Works like a charm over short periods of time.

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        5. I hosted a sleepover recently. Experienced what a normal Aussie household is like for a day. I… am actually rather happy now that my children are fond of quieter pursuits, though the other was also wonderful in it’s own way.

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        6. Hahahaha I SO know what you mean! My daughter turned nine earlier this year and had her friends over for a sleepover. Urgh! Even my office failed as a shield.

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        7. Mind, the children were actually pretty well behaved. Happy shouts and calling at each other through the house, feet running through halls and up and down stairs. (Then they discovered the back yard and moved the rumpus there.)

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        8. You were fortunate.😛

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  2. “hey get to give each other awards,” The Universe now has symetry bothe the Social Justice Whiners and the Puppies can give each other awards, The Dragon does probably have a lot more Fans voting though,

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    1. I’d love to find out how many actually voted!

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    2. Considering how few ‘puppies’ there are (we all saw the voting numbers from the Hugos) and how many people get to vote (and did vote) on the Dragons, I think calling the Dragons the ‘Puppy award’ is rather short-sighted and off the mark. I’m sure a lot of CHORFs, Trufen, and secret masters of fandom voted on the Dragons, probably a number close to that of the puppies (both rabid and sad).
      And I bet the combined numbers of all of them were less than half of the total numbers of votes. Dragoncon gets what, twenty thousand attendees? Thirty thousand? We’re talking a whole order of magnitude MORE people than get involved in the Hugos.
      And that is what people should remember.

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      1. Dragon Con pulls in closer to SEVENTY thousand people these days.

        I too am interested in the voting stats.

        And I find the teeth gnashing by the CHORFs to be deliciously satisfying.

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      2. DragonCon gets an official attendee count of around 60k. Many state they believe those numbers to be low so they don’t get in trouble with the fire marshal. For reference, that’s also about the size of GenCon.

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        1. I love your write-up of the butthurt reactions! EPIC!

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        2. I haven’t been to dragoncon in over a decade, and it was like 27,000 people that year, (maybe a bit more). So I’m not at all surprised to hear that it’s gotten a lot bigger since then.

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      3. DragonCon gets 80,000 attendees. It is one reason I went on a road trip this Labor Day instead of staying in Atlanta. A small city basically moves into out downtown every Labor Day weekend.

        So, yes, DragonCon is an order of magnitude larger in attendees than WorldCon is in total membership.

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      4. D*C is more like 60 to 70k

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  3. So the awards came from a democracy rather than an autocracy.

    Well, I can understand the SPers angst that they had no say in the matter. I mean, if you think about it, they’re feeling left out. No safe space. No chance to dictate terms. Sniveling over being ignored and only a few people (like our Nicki) are paying attention. So sad.

    Dear me, Nicki – they’re really going to hate me. I don’t fit their moldy mold. I just do what I want to, without asking their permission. On the other hand, not one of them has the background I and other people have, and I don’t live in my parents’ basement, mostly because they both passed on a long time ago and I ran away from home at 21 to go to sea, figuratively speaking.

    God, I hope they really hate my stuff!

    Thanks for posting this article. It is refreshing to read about what happened at Dragon Con.

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    1. One correction – the SPers (Puppies) are hardly upset. LOL!!!

      This makes me SO happy!

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      1. Sorry, my mistake, my bad! I meant SPkickers and failed to correct that! Three lashes with a wet noodle for me, and no ration of grog!

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        1. I knew it was just an oversight!😀

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    2. Paul (Drak Bibliophile) Howard | Reply

      SPers angst?

      The Sad Puppies are cheering for the Dragon Awards!

      The only reason that Sad Puppies are saying that they had nothing to do with the Dragon Awards is that there are idiots claiming that the Dragon Awards were the work of the Sad Puppies.

      Of course, some of the Puppy Kickers are whining that the evil Vox Day somewhat “rigged” the Dragon Awards.

      As for “hating your stuff”, what have you written and under what name?

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      1. I think Sara mistyped.🙂

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        1. Paul (Drak Bibliophile) Howard

          So I see.😀

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      2. Typo, Paul. I have three works in progress. One is speculative fiction, one is hard military sci-fi with some hetero romance thrown in (for us girls!) and one is strict fantasy. They are each a part of different series, and I will send notice to Nicki once they are done so that she can kick me good and hard for following my own path without permission. Hope to finish at least two by year’s end.

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        1. Paul (Drak Bibliophile) Howard

          Typos, they happen to everybody.😀

          Look forward to seeing what you’ve written.

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  4. The interesting thing, is that I had read most of the winners, prior to the award coming out. Generally, for the Hugos, most of the nominees were COMPLETELY unknown to me, much less their works.

    And, for the most part, I was bored by most of the Hugo Packet contents.

    In the final analysis, I’ve been voting for decades, with the only award that really matters: the one that is green and folds. After all,to quote the ILOH Himself, the most important task for an author . . . is GETTING PAID…..

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  5. Reblogged this on The Arts Mechanical and commented:
    The Dragons come out and award books that people actually READ!! And the PKs can’t handle that after all the GREAT effort they went to make it absolutely clear, with wooden buttholes and everything that only preapproved nominees were Hugo worthy. Well now they can choke on it.

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  6. This is what I woke up to. YAAAAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    1. I know, right? YAY!

      BTW – not sure why, but you wound up in the spam folder! Luckily, I go through there and check before summarily deleting the entire thing.🙂

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      1. Hm no idea. O.o😄 I actually went squee when I saw the news on Mad Genius Club.

        I’m indulging myself a little; I’ll probably pop back on after I’ve made breakfast and read while eating. Then today is a planned schedule of baking – chocolate cupcakes for the birthday of one of my lost boys, and breakfast muffins for my hubby.

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  7. It was very refreshing to see names I was familiar with on the nomination lists and I was thrilled at some of the finishers, as well. I’m glad the International Lord of Hate got his Dragon, although I enjoy Jim Butchers work just as well. That other award had one person I was familiar with as a winner and it’s hard to vote on something like that. I voted in almost every category on the Dragons and was happy to do so. Perhaps my work may even show up on that ballot some day. I would be as happy as a dog with two peters!

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    1. I voted for Larry.🙂. He did better work this year.

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      1. No denying Larry was amazing this year!🙂

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      2. You two are top of my list of must read Authors and it was a hard decision.

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      3. Christopher M. Chupik | Reply

        And how cool is it having Jim flipping Butcher drop by?🙂

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        1. I know!!! You should see the grin on my face!

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      4. I love both your works – You are on the ‘omg must preorder now’ list of authors for me.

        It wasn’t easy to choose between your book and Larry’s – I reread them before voting – and picked Larry’s because it was ‘more solid’ to me.

        Heaven have mercy on me if you have a Dresden book out and he has a MHI one to choose between! I’ll choose but I am certain it’ll be even harder than this time!

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  8. First congratulations to the winners.
    But….
    Ten of 14 awards are Vox Day recommendations. Hmmm.
    Voting on the Awards was one email address, one vote, a system gamergaters already know how to game.
    Even I if I wanted could have voted seven times just from being on the Internet since practically forever and different companies, schools, devices, giving me Internet addresses if I wanted it or not.
    If anyone thinks that Wright wrote the best novel last year I have to say your tastes are very strange.

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    1. BUT… BUT… BUT… VOOOOOOX!!!! BUT… BUT… BUT… GAMERGATE! BUT… BUT… BUT… CHEAAAATINNNGGGG!

      Anything else you want to throw in there? Maybe Trump? Maybe some cisheteropatriarchal oppression?

      Jesus! You can’t possibly just admit that different people have differing tastes in fiction and that they may like works that you don’t. It just HAS to be cheating, because your snotty little clique wasn’t involved, so those votes couldn’t possibly be real!

      You fuckers are so petty and sad, I’d feel sorry for you, if I didn’t have nothing but a middle finger to give you.

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      1. Ahahahahahaha! And the insinuations of cheating begins. Oh the salt. Oh the bitter gnashing and wailing. Beautiful.

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        1. A view into the mind of a Puppy Kicker:

          (scene cuts to one of the Secret Puppy Lodges. . . )

          Hi, my name is Keith (HI KEITH!!!). . . and I’m really Vox Day. . .

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        2. Y’know, it wouldn’t surprise me if they did think like that.

          Back when Clamps wasn’t banned yet from a livejournal I used to frequent for political discussion, he would regularly attribute the statements from someone else to myself, the blog owner or another person, as if we were merely interchangeable or he thought we were all sockpuppets. When this was pointed out to him, he implied that he didn’t think we were a bunch of different people at all, because we tended to agree on certain topics, ‘casting doubts on our individuality.’

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      2. Just 10 extra likes, Nicki.🙂 It’s a pity you had to be so restrained though.

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        1. Oh, I’ll get worse.😉

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      3. The best part about all this is, their panicky claims are easily refutable. Larry had to be asked why he wasn’t promoting the Dragon Awards on his blog.

        This weekend I was at LibertyCon, and I ran into one of the organizers of the Dragon Awards. He said that he was kind of surprised that he hadn’t seen me talk about them online much. I told him that was because of Sad Puppies, I’m a controversial figure, there are just too many bitter harpies and poo flingers from fandom’s inbred pustulent under-choad who automatically flip out about anything I do, so I didn’t want to rock the boat for them.

        But his response? Screw that. This award is for ALL FANS. And you have fans. So GO BUG THEM! We want so many people voting in this thing that no little clique or faction can sway it. The more fans involved, the better.

        (an attitude that demonstrates why DragonCon is awesome)

        http://monsterhunternation.com/2016/07/12/wrongfans-unite-only-a-week-left-to-nominate-for-the-dragon-awards/

        So there you have it. Not that the truth matters to the CHORFies. They’ll scream that there are five lights until they’re passed out on the floor.

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    2. I don’t know what was on Vox’s list, but those I voted for won. And I voted for them purely because I enjoyed them. I know, my approach is revolutionary.

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      1. I have to make a slight correction. The only one I voted for who didn’t win was Chuck Gannon. Not sure how I missed that.

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    3. Christopher M. Chupik | Reply

      Hey, remember when the Kickers accused Sad Puppies of believing in silly conspiracy theories?

      They certainly don’t.

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      1. Remember the first rule of social justice zealots: “It isn’t bad if we do it.”

        And the fact that they do it makes them think there is no other way to ever, ever win. So they think that everyone else does what they do. So when an actual honest to goodness vote comes along and they don’t win, they accuse of the thing they did to ensure their wins elsewhere, complaining that the votes were ‘rigged’ against their interests – as if their interests were the only ones.

        Heck, I’m sad that Changeling Island didn’t win; it is legitimately awesome. But a posthumous Pratchett is in that category; and I know lots and lots of people read Sir PTerry before, and would’ve read and enjoyed this one. I accept that there are MORE people who would’ve read that book and loved it, over CI.

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        1. I must admit I’d have been a bit shocked if CI won over Sir Terry. The award couldn’t go to a finer writer.

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        2. Dude. You were nominated in the same category as a legend. That makes you amazing in my book!

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        3. Paul (Drak Bibliophile) Howard

          When’s the sequel to CI coming out?😉

          Note, I haven’t heard that Dave is writing one.😀

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        4. Huh (lofty snoot) I’ll have you bleedin’ well know _I_ was nominated with THREE freaking legends. (I was also nominated for best fantasy, and I asked my fans not to vote for me – but said I was voting for the ILoH instead, rather than splitting the vote further.) Yeah, just being in the same race is nearly too much for my excessive vanity. Barbs had to get the doors widened to get my head through.

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        5. *grin* I’m sorry, but the seagull in your photo is probably there to peck holes in said vanity, should it inflate too much.

          Though, in this case some inflation is entirely warranted. Three legends, after all, as you say.

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      2. I really, really don’t care about them. They lost all credibility with me a long time ago.

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    4. By the way – thanks so much for proving my point for me.

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      1. Ultimately, that’s why I see Vox winning in his campaign against the Torlings. They can’t help but hand him his victories on a silver platter, because all he has to do is tell them ‘don’t do this,’ and they march, in lockstep, singing proudly that THEY ARE DOING WHAT VOX DAY TOLD THEM NOT TO DO!! as they do exactly what the Dark Lord told them not to do.

        It takes very little effort on his part to manipulate them. I mean we exert exactly zero in the CHORFs being such willing Exhibit A to Z and with numbers attached, in proving our points.

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        1. They’re letting him live rent-free in their pointy little heads. Not only that, but he’s pissing on the toilet seat and putting his dirty shoes all over the furniture, and they’re bowing to him and cleaning up his shit.

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        2. I wonder how many of us live rent free in their heads sometimes.

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        3. That to me is the most amazing part of this saga. They hate the guy so much, yet they end up doing exactly what he wants anyway. They are so busy virtue signalling each other, they can’t see his long game.

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        4. They’re too busy screaming that they don’t see how simple his ‘dark nefarious plots to manipulate’ them are.

          I was wondering to myself if they are deliberately that simple, or anything more complex would simply be too subtle for the ASPie CHORFs and they’d miss it entirely. I think now that the simple strategy distracts them well enough from anything he might have that requires more subtlety.

          Either way, I am vastly entertained.

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        5. …and making REAL popcorn, not that microwave crap. in job lots is cheap and easy. The entertainment value? Priceless….

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        6. Actually, I make this salty fried bread as a movie/reading snack. I’d love home made kettle corn though…

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        7. Haven’t tried kettle corn, but make a pretty good caramel popcorn.

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    5. Awww, it’s a conspiracy. It’s Vox! It’s evil!

      Funny how they can never get that not everyone agrees with their tastes in books or that there might be a lot of fans (as opposed to Fans) out there who actually read the books nominated and voted for what they liked. I wonder if the lemming (sorry, if elemming) has any problem with publishers buying worldcon memberships for their employees and then encouraging them to vote. Or how about the authors last year — coff:MRK:coff — who bought memberships for others? I guess that’s okay because they aren’t VOX!

      Once again, the foolishness of assuming fans of the genre don’t read, don’t get involved and can’t think for themselves.

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      1. http://injusticegamer.blogspot.com.au/2016/09/the-hurt-is-strong-at-f770.html

        Yeah, when they bought votes, they were okay with that. But they lose and waaaah people CONSPIRED against their darlings!

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      2. The best part – weren’t the CHORFs – like that shitface Spacefaringkitten – going all over the various Puppy-supporting blogs, sneering that it was ‘just mere difference in taste’ that the Hugo winners won?

        But when the Dragon Awards have a different result, it’s not ‘difference in tastes’ it’s WAAAAH CHEATING EHRMERGERD VOX

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        1. They literally see Vox under every bed, and frantically scream for mommy to come bring them their teddy bear!

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        2. Well of course it’s a matter of taste, but the Hugo Awards prove that the Sad Puppy tastes are in the minority. So if another award yields different results, there must be cheating. QED.

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      3. Not only that – but if you look at the list he had posted waay back when – even for the hugos, it wasn’t “all castalia, all the time”. he actually reads, and has made recommednations, across the spectrum.

        Funny, the “intolerant” supreme dark lord is actually far more tolerant of points of view he opposes if presented well instead of as literary BS.

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        1. There’s a statement to blow their minds.

          “Vox Day is more tolerant of points of view he disagrees with, than you.”

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    6. Speaking as one of the foremost experts on GamerGate, they DGAF about books or book awards. They didn’t deign to vote in the Hugos, even when directly confronted by the Torlocks. The Dragons were of Fans, by Fans, and for Fans.

      And, speaking for this fan, YOUR TEARS ARE DELICIOUS TO ME.

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      1. Schadenfreudetastic!

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        1. Ah, yes, good old Mr. Chad N. Freud.

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      2. In fairness, I expected that if any GG votes came in, it’d be for the gaming categories (because, y’know. Gaming. That’s what GG cares about!) Any votes that dribbled in from folks there would be because they’d *read* those books, and liked it enough to click that radio box on.

        But ‘waaah because Gamergate gamed awards’ is just insane. I couldn’t RESIST letting you know.

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    7. Do you often see faces in the shadows?

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    8. Interesting…you assume because you can figure out how to vote multiple times that Vox Day and his minions must have done so. You also assume only they could have done so.

      If cheating is that easy isn’t it logical to conclude multiple groups might do so and cancel each other out instead of just assuming the ones you dislike are the only ones to do so?

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    9. You unintentionally bring up a good point.

      I have no doubt your SJW buddies will try to hack and trash this next time around. It’s what you do, you try to destroy everything out there.

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  9. Christopher M. Chupik | Reply

    “I was going to ridicule Lena Dunham today, but screw her!”

    No thanks, I have standards.😛

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    1. Really. Not even with Michael Moore’s shriveled micropenis, 10 layers of condoms, and a Racal quarantine suit…. (evil grin)

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      1. Don’t stick it in crazy! Words to live by.

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  10. Reblogged this on A Journey Through Life and commented:
    I’ve been busy. Will work on a blog post, later, but the life as a cog in the machine has kept me from really doing much. That and I’ve already dropped Qualidea Code and Alderamin on the Sky, just accumulating the episodes to watch on the plane ride from KIAD to RJAA.

    Oh, that’s right. I haven’t really talked about that, I’ll explain later.

    Now, on to the reason of this reblogging. I think it’s fair to say that after the second year in which “No Award” was handed out by the Hugo committee rather than have ‘undesirables’ win an award, folks who buy books because we enjoy them got fed up and we flocked over to the much more democratic and open Dragon Awards. And it shows, and the salt. The salt is enough to brine a crocodile and leave it falling from the bone as if it was really well done chicken.

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    1. It was the no-awarding that did it for me. I was appalled by their vindictiveness. And this year when they brushed the pedophilia thing off as if it was of no concern, considering how vocal they usually are about the tiniest thing, I realised the Hugos had died a long time ago. Only the rotting carcass remains and no matter how much they drench it in perfume, it’s still rotting, still decaying, and still smelling like shit. The whole thing is tainted for me now.

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  11. DragonCon is deliberately on the same weekend as World Con and always has been, in protest to World Con politics 30 years ago. DragonCon had set it goals to teach World Con you can be “inclusive” to all aspects of Fandom and successful. Better than that DragonCon has become and is what World Con should have been- A home for all Fans. DragonCon you ROCK! Keep doing what you do best Great Con!

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    1. Worldcon had to move to different weekend precisely because they couldn’t afford to miss DragonCon.

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  12. I’m thrilled by the Dragon results. Only three of *my* picks won – Larry Correia, David Weber and Nick Cole – but I can’t think of a single winner I actually *disagree* with.

    JCW winning Best SF for “Somewhither” was pure awesome, and I say that as someone who voted for Chuck Gannon. That category and several others were almost a coin flip for me, as I was faced with a choice between Awesome Writer A and Awesome Writer B, on lists filled with awesomeness. Ditto having to choose between Declan Finn (who got my vote) and winner Brian Niemaier in the Horror category.

    Not too terribly surprised that Sir Pterry won YA. (I voted for Brandon Sanderson there.) Really shocked that Naomi Novik won Alt-Hist over Eric Flint and Harry Turtledove (I voted for Flint, but figured that Turtledove would run away with that category because, well, Turtledove). Then again, it is the inaugural Dragon Awards, so perhaps it would be a little odd if at least one of the awards didn’t go to somebody who writes dragon fiction. 😛

    Heartfelt congratulations to all the winners. May next year’s Dragon nominees be as truly diverse and as truly incredible as this year’s selections.

    Oh, and: Hugos delenda est. It’s time for the rest of the fans to have their say.

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  13. I ran a worldcon once; number 36, in Phoenix, in 1978 — 38 years ago now. I say this only to establish my fannish fides. My comment isn’t *specifically* about the Dragon Awards, but I wanted, in this forum, to say that I am appalled at what the WorldCon and the Hugos have become. I left fandom about 1979 to do Other Things, and until shortly before the Hugos at Sasssssquan I had no idea of any of what was happening — SP’s 1, 2, 3, kicking, etc. People who I used to have at least a shred (but only a shred) of respect for turned out to be nothing other than Stalinists. (Alas, I wasn’t really surprised that much.)

    I stopped reading SF many years ago, save for when one of the writers worth reading — Ian Banks, Larry Niven, Jerry Pournelle — would publish something new. Looking at the recent Hugos, I see I have missed little. I’m glad these awards now exist. I’ll actually now look at some of these winners, as they might actually then be worth reading!

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    1. Try John Ringo. He didn’t win any Dragons but he’s really good.

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      1. Absolutely love Ringo. Fantastic storyteller who can make an avowed feminist cry over the death of a character that formerly was bitched about as “too sexualized”. Re-read the core posleen books a number of times, and the “March/Prince Roger” books.

        Love them all.

        Aside: Last Centurion and MHM:Grunge are somewhat more in-your-face politically.

        Also: before reading the Paladin of Shadows books, please look up the review titled “Oh John Ringo No”

        Finally: Loved MHM:Grunge, but the character is an asshole in the vein of a slightly nicer Mike Harmon from Paladin of Shadows on a (literal) mission from God, and is a memoir/rant much like centurion, all set in Larry’s MHI universe.

        https://nightlandsredoubt.blogspot.com/2016/08/monster-hunter-memoirs-grunge-or-last.html

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        1. MHM:Grunge are somewhat more in-your-face politically.

          While true, Ringo justifies this in-story as part of the character. I utterly lost it at the scene in the hospital, and HAD to read it to my soldier husband – once I managed to breathe without insane fits of giggles, that is.

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        2. I think that Chad Gardineir is just like his parents except with reversed polarity. He’s a woman hunter like his Dad. He’s as far right as his mother is left. The rest is just 100% male. Every guy loves violence either in person or as a game or read about.

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        3. I think that Chad Gardineir is just like his parents except with reversed polarity. He’s a woman hunter like his Dad. He’s as far right as his mother is left. The rest is just 100% male. Every guy loves violence either in person or as a game or read about.

          Yeah, a totally over the top rebellious streak, in keeping with the over-the-top hard left mom, and womanizing dad. Finding a purpose beyond simply being his anti-family is one of his important stepping stones.

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        4. “They taste like chicken! Do the whole village!”
          😛

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        5. My favorite was “It’s easy because babies don’t dodge!”

          Unfortunately, Chad’s mom isn’t a caricature, just on the right end of the bell curve for her type. I’ve met some.

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        6. Yeah – I’ve met a few too. Not entirely a caricature, as while rare, not rare enough.

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        7. That “tastes like chicken” line caught me on the audiobook while driving. I had to pull over I was laughing so hard.

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        8. Thanks for the warning; though my hubby’s listened to the Dresden Files while driving, I may have to consider gigglefits for books I buy for him to listen to.

          …That ‘books to listen to’ looks very strange to me, no matter how much I tell myself otherwise.

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  14. That guy at the end complaining about the Whiteness of the Dragon winners had better look a little more closely at the last few Hugo “Class Photos”.

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    1. Shhh… it’s OK when they do it…

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  15. I’m happy for the winners — and for myself; now I have some fresh reading prospects — but beware: Should the Dragon Awards eclipse the Hugos in popularity, significance, or market clout, the SJWs will do their level best to infiltrate the organizational structure of the Dragons and turn them to their preferences. Organizations and SJWs are like that.

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    1. The Dragons may only last 30 years. But if that happens we’ll start something else.

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      1. Indeed. Mobility and flexibility are the best defenses against the ever-attacking forces of the Left.

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    2. I have no doubt that, as we write, on some invitation only listserv, CHORFs are quoting Antonio Gramsci to each other and setting up a five year plan to culturally subvert Dragon Con. How dare the fans have a say in who they like? Double plus ungood.

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      1. I don’t think it would manifest as an organized, centrally directed attack. It’s likely to be more of a Hive effect convergence. Each of the members of that community of “thought” shares the central motive of the community: to intimidate, silence, and expel those of us who won’t toe their line. Thus, each will be personally motivated to move in the direction of the subversion you mentioned. If there’s a JouroList-style mechanism of coordination, it will be very difficult to prove.

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        1. That sounds a lot like what I’ve described as a “Headless Conspiracy” where everyone acts as if there IS one, and hopes through their work to support it, they will be brought in and rewarded by the non-existent conspirators.

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        2. It’s quite probable that many seeming conspiracies are, in reality, of exactly that sort.

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        3. I used to be more inclined to assume that it was merely stupid minds thinking alike. Then I discovered jurno list, as you point out, and Lois Lerner’s multi-agency assault on freedom-loving Americans. Now I am more inclined to believe active conspiracies, even if unprovable. Call me paranoid, if you wish, my wife does.

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        4. You could be right. My preference is for an explanation that doesn’t predict more than it explains. If there are conscious, collaborative conspiracies involved, they’ll do a lot of nasty things, so I’m hoping that’s not the case.

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        5. Paul (Drak Bibliophile) Howard

          Well, I think of it as “group-think” more than conspiracies.

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        6. Think of it as “Henry the Second” syndrome. “Will no one rid me of this troublesome priest!”

          Similarly, Obama never had to issue any instructions to the IRS to target the Tea Party. Kipling describes it well here.

          They only paid the Moonlighter his cattle-hocking price,
          They only helped the murderer with counsel’s best advice,
          But — sure it keeps their honour white — the learned Court believes
          They never give a piece of plate to murderers and thieves.

          They never told the ramping crowd to card a woman’s hide,
          They never marked a man for death — what fault of theirs he died? —
          They only said “intimidate,” and talked and went away —
          By God, the boys that did the work were braver men than they!

          Their sin it was that fed the fire — small blame to them that heard —
          The boys get drunk on rhetoric, and madden at a word —
          They knew whom they were talking at, if they were Irish too,
          The gentlemen that lied in Court, they knew, and well they knew!

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        7. Excellent – and a bit of Kipling I hadn’t previously seen! Bravo!

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        8. Never attribute to conspiracy what can be explained by human stupidity.

          Let’s face it, “Three can keep a secret if two are dead” is actually a fairly good rule. Most conspiracy-theorist conspiracies would involve dozens or even hundreds of people if they were real.

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        9. Having been the target of two conspiracies, one of which was investigated and the people involved punished by the IG, I can tell you, conspiracies are -common-. It’s like freaking human nature to want to band together and go after the ‘other’.

          You get a bunch of like minded people together in a room, give them a little power, and give them something or someone they hate (or want to punish) and you will have a conspiracy in less time than it takes to say the word.

          And once started, there is no end to the things they will do or go through, until they are either caught, or their target is no longer within their grasp.

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        10. Recall that my comment was directed at putative conspiracies involving large numbers of people, the sorts that conspiracy theorists posit. I’m talking Truthers, NWO, etc. I would *guess* (and please correct me if I am wrong!!) that your situations involved two or three people. Those conspiracies are certainly much more likely (Poor Richard’s Almanac quote aside) to actually exist, as you all-too-painfully know.

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        11. Actually it was 10 to 15 people, and they all got reduced in rank, rather severely.
          If it had been only a couple of people, and they’d been smarter about it, they might have gotten away with it. The problem with all conspiracies is that people eventually talk. But in some cases, that can be 20 years (as in the case of the second one).

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  16. I buy about 150 books each year.

    I realized about 10 years ago that winning a Hugo Award was no longer an indication that I would enjoy the book; quite the contrary. It became an award based on the author’s social status, not on the quality of the story.

    Today I bought 2 Brian Niemeier books because he won a Dragon award, and the Declan Finn book based on Nikki’s review.

    I don’t care about an authors personal history, sex, gender, or inclusion in a protected class. I care about dialog, plot, wit, ideas, and perspectives: a good read.

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    1. Absolutely agree! I hope you enjoy Declan’s book too! Nick Cole’s and Marina Fontaine’s works are a lot of fun as well!

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      1. I found Ctrl Alt Revolt rather depressing.

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  17. Wish I had time to read stuff anymore.

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    1. Hell, I wish I had time to write the damn story I’ve been working on for three years.

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      1. Keep at it! I’ve got one I’ve been working on for four.

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        1. What genre? I ask, because your link goes to a mostly dead website.

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        2. Mine will be space opera/military fiction, if it ever gets done. Very libertarian society.

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        3. Just echoing SteveInCo here. The link back in your avatar goes to your old page. I only recently found the new page. May want to fix that sometime. Unless you want to hide from us. 😉

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        4. Hm. I’ll have to fix that. I hadn’t realized. Thanks, guys!

          *now to figure out how to fix it…*

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        5. It still points to affsdiary.com

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        6. I really wonder what else I need to change. Stupid settings.

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        7. It doesn’t look like it worked. Hovering over your name still points to affsdiary.

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        8. Hm. Fixing it in the WordPress account doesn’t transfer it over to Gravatar. Gravatar transfers it over to the WP though. I *think* it’s fixed now…

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        9. “Fixing it in the WordPress account doesn’t transfer it over to Gravatar. Gravatar transfers it over to the WP though. I *think* it’s fixed now…”

          I’m still seeing the affsdiary link. 😦

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        10. Where would I fix that? When I click on ‘websites’ I’ve ordered it with https://shadow.affsdiary.com first, my deviantart next, and then David’s site last.

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        11. AHA. Found it. It’s under ‘account settings’

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        12. I hesitate to ask, but did you clear your browser cache?

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        13. The apple muffins look delicious.

          Actually, somewhere in there, you got your profile showing something too, cool!

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        14. I’m not sure if it’s taking a while to populate the https://shadow.affsdiary.com link for my SD/CLD name, or its my connection. For me, if I hover over it it still shows the old affsdiary.com link.

          The muffins ARE delicious. And chewy, fluffy flavorful delights. I had three today for breakfast and made myself stop; they’re for Rhys!

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        15. You cant pop one or two of them onto the antipodes rocket, I take it. 🙂

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        16. Hah, I told Sinapus on Twitter the best I could do was share the recipe.

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        17. I guess I need to turn the picture upside down (or do a headstand) to appreciate them, being as how you’re on the other side of the world. (Especially if you happen to be in Perth.)

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        18. @CuteLittleDrow…

          That comment you responded to most recently is one that went into the ether for about two hours before it showed up. I had to post it again, because I thought it hadn’t “taken” for some reason.

          It was no longer true when you replied to it. The links are fine now.

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        19. @Steve – SWEET! Glad to know the links work now.❤ Thanks for helping me out and apologies to Nicki for the impromptu debugging thread.

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        20. My favorite among my own novels took me twelve years to complete. It’s also the one my readers love most. Sometimes the wine must age a long while in the cask.

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        21. “AHA. Found it. It’s under ‘account settings”

          That’s got it! Seeing the “new” page now. 🙂

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      2. FWIW: Ours took around 4 to finish. Let’s not discuss publishing, still working on that part.

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        1. Oh, I finished a first cut. Three test readers professed to love it. Sent it to an editor…who eviscerated it. And I had to agree with some of her criticisms, but I haven’t been able to fix it at all.

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        2. “Oh, I finished a first cut. Three test readers professed to love it. Sent it to an editor…who eviscerated it. And I had to agree with some of her criticisms, but I haven’t been able to fix it at all.”

          Understand that. Part of the reason ours took so long, had to let it simmer for a while before going in and doing the re-writes. _sigh_

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        3. When you say that the editor ‘eviscerated it’, exactly how do you mean that?
          It’s one thing if an editor finds problems that you put in either by accident or inexperience, but it is a completely different thing if the editor wants you to change your story. I have seen editors who are frustrated writers, and want you to write their story, and not yours.
          So make sure to take a step back and see what things are useful, and which things are the editor’s own biases and desires, but not yours. It is your story after all, not theirs. Make sure you keep it that way.

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        4. Two of my readers, on the other hand, are demanding “more” and a bit upset…

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        5. @John Van Stry

          Apparently she found my alien heroes arrogant, my main character to be an utter douchebag, the main female character to be a total cunt (not her word, but I am compressing for space), and I was too preachy on one particular subject. Plus, it took too long for the action to start.

          She suggested a different main character, but that only solved some of the problems. I decided to split it into two works, trying to do both lines at once was causing major issues.

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        6. The too preachy and the action taking too long are valid criticisms.

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        7. Agreed. And I had to make some effort to change some characterizations.

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        8. Oh, and by the way, anyone here–if you know a good SF-ish editor who doesn’t sympathize with, er, them, let me know.

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  18. […] I wrote about the Dragon Awards this weekend, I predicted that the CHORFs – mostly excluded from the fun and honors – would […]

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  19. Sorry. I haven’t read any new sci-fi or fantasy in too too long. I grew up on the Holy Trinity of sci-fi; Heinlein (who I still think is the Greatest of Them All), Clarke, and Asimov. Tolkien for his “Lord of the Rings”.
    But looking at the list of books and titles makes me want to pick up at least a couple of them and start again.
    Thank you.

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  20. I’m surprised Fallout 4 beat out Witcher 3!

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    1. *mischievous grin* One of the things that I was told on Twitter was, if Gamergate HAD been involved, then Fallout 4 wouldn’t have won.

      (Honestly though, I don’t know any better on this; I haven’t got an opinion on those games personally. )

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