The Hypocrisy of Trump Supporters

I probably should have titled this blog post “The Hypocrisy of SOME Trump Supporters,” because I do know a few folks who aren’t complete morons, but who still support the Hairy Hemorrhoid™ because they believe he’s either the lesser of all the evils, or they are simply tired of everything and want to burn the whole place to the ground.

This does, however, tie in with my previous contention that Trump supporters, generally, will back this guy no matter what!

Trump claims he consults himself on foreign policy (and hires a guy who graduated college in 2009 and lists the Model UN on his resume as a foreign policy adviser), and they either screech off topic that this is just an empty attack, and that it doesn’t matter, or they claim it’s simply part of his strategery, because he’s so sharp, and “Oh, who are Hillary’s advisers?”

Trump engages in a campaign of character assassination against a reporter who accuses his staffer of roughly grabbing her? Oh, it wasn’t that hard, they claim!

Megyn Kelly asks Trump some hard questions, he whines about her being unfair to him, and his supporters rampage on Twitter, calling her everything from a bimbo to a trashy skank, to a cunt.

Because STRATEGERY! He’s just trying to keep his opponents off balance! MMMMKAY…

  Because life is so unfair to poor Donald!

The same people who criticize Barack Obama for his “evolution” on the issue of same sex marriage, don’t care that Trump was pro-choice until he “evolved,” although he still thinks Planned Parenthood does a lot of good, but no, he’s pro-life… so pro-life, in fact, that he wants women who get abortions punished by the government! 

They don’t care that he “evolved” on guns from an “assault” weapon banning, background check and waiting period to exercise a fundamental right-mandating statist prick to a “I SUPPORT OUR SECOND AMENDMENT RIGHTS!”

The same people who claim Hillary can’t be Commander-in-Chief, because BENGHAZI! are perfectly OK with a Commander-in-Chief who brags he will issue illegal orders to the military, and the military will damn well follow them, because he’s TRUMP!

Yes, the Hairy Hemorrhoid gave Clinton operative Terry McAuliffe $25,000 - that's TWENTY FIVE THOUSAND FUCKING DOLLARS - to win the governorship of Virginia!

The same people who are tired of candidates who are beholden to Wall Street and corporate interests worship at the tiny dick of someone who openly bragged about giving money to those same politicians, because that’s how you get things done and now wants to become one of them. 

The same people who complain about the establishment compromising on absolutely everything zealously support someone who openly brags about being flexible and making”great deals.”

The same people who scream and yell about Obama’s use of Executive Orders have no problem with Trump proudly claiming he will follow suit, because he will use them for “the right things.”

The same people who chastised Obama for his blindness on Russia during the 2012 campaign (the 80s called – they want their foreign policy back) ignore Trump’s outright ignorance on the threat of a resurgent, aggressive Russia and praise his insistence that he and Russian President Vladimir Putin would be BFFs

And the same people who claim to be staunch conservatives and assert that the only way they will abandon Trump is if he goes “back on his policies or his issues” ignore the fact that this is all he’s done throughout his life!

This stunning lack of self awareness and the refusal to see their own hypocrisy shows a desperation on behalf of the Trump supporters. They are so desperate for a change, that they are blindly and zealously supporting everything they claim to oppose, because ultimately, their goal is to piss off daddy (read: establishment) by bringing home the drunken guy with the nose ring (read: Trump), and not to “make America great again.”

America is already great. Those who have lived outside this country, those who lived under the oppressive boot of communism, those who have experienced authoritarianism understand that. 

88 responses

  1. then how about you, oh so smart ones, continue to allow the prog deamoncraps and moron’s like Glenn Beck keep picking our candidates because you don’t like someone that the libtard media call’s a bad person!
    better yet, just vote obummer in for a third term just to prove your childish point or, as Sean Hannity says, pick up yer toys and go home! waaaaaaa!

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    1. How cute! A barely literate Trumproid. Can’t actually refute anything written, so falls back on OBAMA! and rambles incoherently, proving my point for me!

      SCORE!

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      1. lol, actually, i don’t trust ANY friggin politician dem or repub, because they all suck! i just get sick and tired of all you sparkle ponies whining and crying and keep jabbering the same ol talking points and BS lies the libtards put out there.
        and then, when someone voices their opinion opposite of yours, you get all butt hurt and become rude and condescending and stamp your little feet while holding your breath! try to be civil and debate like an adult for once.

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        1. OMFG! Self assessment might help. Read your first comment and then reassess your accusation of ME getting “rude and condescending.” Are you REALLY this daft?

          You’ve got to be the LEAST self aware person I’ve ever seen try to comment here!

          And by the way, genius. Why don’t you point out ANY part of my post that is BS lies. I dare you!

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      2. Awesome article Nicki!🙂 You deserve a Pulitzer!🙂 A++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

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  2. Peter, to which “libtard lies” are you referring?

    Seriously, look up Trump’s historical positions (most easily found in his own writings, but no lack of news reports). Up to the time he announced a Republican run for the presidency, he was pro-choice, pro-gun control, hired illegal alien construction workers, and tried for work visas to import aliens for seasonal housekeeping jobs. Hell, he has to import his wives (some jobs Americans just won’t do). Suddenly he’s now anti-abortion, pro-2A, pro-closed borders. But then there’s the little point of a running mate. Early on, when asked who he’d like as his VP, Trump replied, “Oprah Winfrey.”

    Then there’s his abuse of emiment domain. Never mind the NJ case, look up his Scottish golf course.

    Personally, I think Trump only entered the race as a joke; to get more attention. He’s a pathological narcissist who needs constant attention. He never seemed to take any of it seriously until the the Iowa caucus, when he looked stunned in newsclips.

    I think he’s running scared of winning. Which would account for the recent rash of bizarre statements which seem designed to alienate folks: order the military to commit war crimes, give Japan nuclear weapons (JAPAN?! Does he not know any history, or does he know damned well?), the abortion prosecution flip-flop, the anti-abortion-but-pro-Planned_Parenthood, the irrational series of statements in the Fields case, the reversal of his reversal on the “support any Repblican nominee” pledge. Sheesh, the frickin’ border wall that he’d bill Mexico for through tariffs on Mexican products: NAFTA.

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    1. stubborn crowd here. i didn’t come here to yank yer chains but, some of y’all are azzholes. i’m a vet too, US ARMY 75-81 and being stationed in Germany woke me up to our Goobermint under carter’s bullshit! after ETS’n in 81 in Hawaii, i just put my middle finger in the air and told those scumbag politidicks to kiss my ass! regardless of any of your opinion’s, those assholes in DC are gonna do what they wanna do and don’t give 2 shits what y’all crusaders think or do. it’s gonna take a helluva lot more than fancy, purty words to regain America.
      NOW, go ahead and vote yer damn lawyer in! i’m out

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      1. Let me see if I have this right.

        You come here and get rude. Then you accuse us of posting lies. I challenge you to show me where in this article you have found a single lie. You ignore me, but accuse US of being assholes, but at the same time claim you didn’t come here to yank chains, and then casually toss it out there that you’re a vet… why? You think that will make us like you more, even though you are a halfwit?

        Nope. Point out any lies or shut the fuck up.

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    2. Lars?

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      1. Absolutely not! LOL

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  3. Rubio tries to do something with illegal aliens and Trumpbots crush him. Trump will grant touchback amnesty and Trumpbots completely ignore it, just like they ignore his desire for single payer. And his desire for a ruinous trade war. Both of those positions are also the positions of Sanders. Who’s a socialist.

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    1. Yeah, but don’t expect them to excel at critical thinking.

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  4. Wow. Nicki is a sparkle pony.
    I have to admit, I never saw THAT one coming. It demonstrates an incredible perception to see that she is a sparkle pony.

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    1. Or delusion! LMAO!

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  5. Petie, I’m a-guessing that your the military guy that does have less experience than Trump (what with him being a mil prep school vet).

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    1. i guess so, big bad beary! lol

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  6. Peter has indeed proven Nicki’s point. The prototypical Trumpkin.

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  7. Is it okay if we call you Peter? Or, perhaps Dick?

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    1. lol, whatever your feeble lil mind is capable of cupcake. i’m not angry, you apparently have been angry since conception.

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  8. Okay, so Nicki is a sparkle pony and I’ve been angry since conception. Hey, that’s GREAT! I learned TWO new things today!
    Maybe three: I also learned a new meaning to the term “I’m out” of which I was previously unaware.
    (Unless Peter withdrew, prematurely, and then re-entered, in an attempt to obtain satisfaction.)

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    1. Wish his daddy had withdrawn. Would have been one less annoying Trumpanzee in the world.

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    2. By the way, can someone with actual communication skills explain to me what the everloving fuck a “sparkle pony” is?

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    3. lmao! i thought i did withdraw patty until you bobbed out out of the toilet 7 months later!

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  9. Can I be a sparkle pony too? Pretty please? It sounds like huge fun! Oops — I meant to say “yuge” fun!

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    1. lol, sounds as you already are bumpsters! carry on.

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  10. Nickie,

    Sparkle Pony. Alternate version.

    Your new avatar.

    Great Ghu. In what universe little Petie would see you as a “sparkle pony”? Of either sort? I guess he’s so mentally emotionally inversted in believing that Trump is a gosh-honest conservative Republican, that anyone who doubts the HH must be some sort of lefty socialist liberal.

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    1. Or something WTF????

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    2. That sparkle pony thing. So me. LMAO

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  11. “i guess so, big bad beary! lol”

    I’m yuuuge!

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    1. Petie, per yuuuge beary! lol

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  12. As many of the regulars here probably know, I live in MI. What you don’t know is that I live in the lower peninsula, and that people who live in the U.P., call us Trolls, as in, we live under the bridge.

    I guess it is ok to be a troll in this case, but Peter, you probably are not from MI. A troll like you is easily recognizable by two very large things. The chip on their shoulder and the high opinion of their own opinion.

    I am not sure if you have ever engaged in reasonable discourse on the internet before, but a word of advise from me to you. Your opinion holds much more weight when based on fact, and not just fairy dust, which I assume must be where you come up with the sparkle pony reference for Nikki.

    Oh, by the way, I make it a point to thank our Vets, so if you served in the military, thank you. That doesn’t make you automatically smarter or more patriotic than someone who did not serve. What it does make you is a veteran. Period. It doesn’t gain points when discussing something 40 years later. Something which you are obviously unprepared to give a rational reason why Trump should be elected president, other than the fact that you don’t like Glen Beck or the media. Perhaps you could gain further wisdom if you stayed away from Sean Hannity, who has done nothing but kiss Trumps stubby fingers since he announced his run for president.

    I guess now is the time for you to call me names or something. It is easier than actually discussing issues. Are you sure you’re not a closet Democrat? That is their style.

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    1. Pigpen, I listen to Hannity often, on my way home from work, and I don’t get the sense that he favors Trump over any other candidate. I don’t watch his TV show. Can you enlighten me? It’s not that I don’t believe what you said, I just haven’t seen it for myself. Perhaps I should listen to the show more carefully.

      Regards.

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  13. Wow, whatever scum-encrusted rock (probably a coprolite) did Peter come out from under?

    (*yeah, yeah that’s three fucking prepositions at the end of my sentence. Let me refer you to my Japanese friend, Sosumi.)

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    1. calm down children! I capitulated yesterday. i’ve been on this site for a couple of years now and have always enjoyed y’all’s banter. BUT NOW, lol (: ain’t nothing but a thang. as far as i’m concerned, i hope the whole system/establishment collapses and we can regain American as it was designed . MOLON LABE and keep yer powder dry.

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  14. Mostly agree with you Nicki but, maybe the Karl Roves, the Juan McAmestys, the Weepy Boehners, etc, etc have pushed a sizable portion of the electorate to this point and we’re going to have to just do our best to stop it and live with what happens. Hell, I don’t even despise Trump as much as the above named. They caused this. ( Full disclosure: Cruz has been my candidate from day one)

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  15. Quite apart from an inchoate desire to rip down a corrupt system by voting for a self-contradicting moron who puts a weather vane to shame, supporters of “The Donald” also are reacting to the sort of ugly thuggery seen in the following report on students who must tremble through each day on an ultra-leftist campus:

    “‘[Trump supporters are] afraid of losing friends, being ridiculed in class, getting worse grades and are even afraid of being assaulted and physically hurt [….]'”

    ““She freaked out and started yelling and screaming in my face, calling me a racist and a fascist. It was impossible to even have a conversation,’ he said.”

    http://nypost.com/2016/04/02/nyu-students-who-back-trump-fear-for-their-safety-on-campus/

    It’s an evil witch’s brew of willful blindness and purposeful refusal to be intimidated. Support for “The Donald” is very unlikely to be diminished by the ever-escalating primal wail from leftist vermin.

    I fear for the Republic.

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  16. I’m starting to think there might be value in the Trump campaign even if it’s just to draw the lunatic spittle-flecked rage of the left as other adults try to garner the nomination.

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  17. RE: Burning the Whole Place to the Ground

    Why am I reminded of Emperor Claudius’ final episode in that BBC classic, I, Claudius?

    “Let akk the poisons of the Earth hatch out.”

    Knowing what Nero as emperor will be like. And hoping that the people would revolt and hopefully restore the Republic.

    Actually, the analogy doesn’t apply to Trump. Rather it applies to the political elite. As the ruling class in our allegedly ‘classless society’ keep getting worse and worse. Doubt this? Look how Obama rides roughshod over the division of powers established in our Constitution. And Congress, like the ancient Roman Senate in the face of the Caesars, does nothing.

    A better analogy, and more in keeping with our current situation is the description of ‘insanity’ given by Bill Clinton in his acceptance speech to the Democratic Party nomination to run for the presidency in 1992…..

    Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, expecting a different result.

    And that is EXACTLY what people who oppose Trump for the GOP nominee are doing. Going with the failed GOP establishment (GOPe) thinking it will change. That is the LAST thing the GOPe wants to do….change. Doubt this? Look at Paul Ryan’s replacement of Boehner as Speaker of the House. Classic, ‘meet the new boss, same as the old boss’.

    Talk about ‘stupid’…..Nicki…..😉

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  18. RE: Claudius Quote

    DANG! Too much blood in my caffeine system.

    That quote should read….

    Let ALL the poisons of the Earth hatch out.

    P.S. Why doesn’t this system allow authors to EDIT their comments?

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  19. OC, I found several things showing where Hannity was being a Trump supporter. Even to the point where he was called out by a junior senator from, I believe Nevada.
    Rush Limbaugh has also seemingly given Trump a free pass when it comes to calling BS on some of Trump’s more ridiculous statements. And to be honest, I think that is the reason why he still continues to say things like he does. There are no negative consequences and often it turns out just the opposite.
    Trump has not come out with policy issues unless it has been in some vague wave of the hand saying, ” We’re going to build a wall, and make the Mexicans pay for it. ” Or something like how we will make China stop it’s unfair trade policies. And how he would just make the 2 sides of Israel and Palestine sit down and work out their differences. Really? Why didn’t someone else think of that?
    I know Trump is neither stupid nor naive, and that leaves only one of two other reasons for him to be acting and speaking in the way that he does. Number one, he is trying to get a rise out of people, any publicity is good, etc.
    And number two, He is only running for his own interests, and has no interest in advancing the countries well being. I think that it is the second one, he is only trying to leverage his own position and increase his own power.

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    1. Pigpen, I don’t have occasion to listen to Rush very often, but other people have said he has been easy on Trump.
      I’m a Cruz guy. I think you are probably right in that Trump is doing it for his own interests and YUGE ego.
      I just wish to have my America back, so that I may show her to my grandkids.

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  20. RE: Women Who Have Abortions

    I do believe that Trump has changed his ‘position’ on government punishing women who have abortions.

    Heck. What’s the difference between his changing positions on issues and Hillary’s or Biden’s?

    I’ve not been a big follower of your blog so I may have missed the articles, but have you complained about other politicians changing positions?

    As for ‘punishment’….

    I have no fear for the lives of the most innocent of US that are snuffed out in abortion mills. I’m certain God can take care of them.

    Likewise, I’m certain that God can ‘take care of them’ that are responsible for such murder.

    In my personal opinion, there is no need for the government to punish those unfortunate souls who think more of themselves than their own children. God is much more capable and His punishment IS eternal.

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    1. Of course I call out politicians on waffling and flip-flopping. But that wasn’t the point here. The point was that the very same people who scream about politicians flip-flopping and changing their mind about a specific issue, do not make a peep when Trump does so numerous times.

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    2. TO: Nicki
      RE: Heh

      You didn’t answer my question about complaining. Where have you complained about other politicians ‘flip-flops’ on issues?

      Otherwise, you’re doing the same think that you accuse Trump supporters of doing.

      For myself, I like the way some wag put it long ago….

      When the facts change, I change my mind. What do YOU do?

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    3. ACK!

      STILL too much blood in my caffeine system. I missed the link. Got it now.

      Apologies for not recognizing the underline for what it was and following it.

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      1. There have been other instances. I just don’t have the time to dig. Needless to say, I call it when I see it.

        FTR – I also don’t see evolving on the issue as a bad thing, necessarily, unless it’s specifically done with the purpose of pandering to one group or another. It’s very well possible that someone’s views on gay marriage or gun control or anything else can evolve. I actually admire those who do learn and are open minded enough to change when presented with facts. But again – my point wasn’t this per se. I wanted to point out how the Trump supporters’ standards don’t seem to apply equally to their candidate vice others.

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    4. RE: Additional Instances

      Thanks for those.

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  21. ADDENDUM: I wish I could find a comment on his position on abortion on his official web site. But there is none to be found.

    I would like to see it because, as happened with his comment about stopping Muslim immigration—that the media ran all over him on—he was taken out of context. His official position was stopping it UNTIL Congress could implement a better system to enhance security.

    But the media didn’t mention any of the latter part. And as a result, he’s been called a ‘racist’ ever since. When that is OBVIOUSLY not the case.

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    1. FTR – I don’t think he’s a racist. I think he’s an ignorant douche. He’s proof positive that someone who is good at real estate can seriously have no concept of economics or foreign policy. Worse yet, he’s not willing to learn.

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    2. RE: The ‘Racism’ of Trump

      Glad to hear you don’t accuse Trump of that.

      On the other hand, I find it interesting that someone who is so successful a businessman can have so little grasp of ‘economics’. I read about Trump back in the 90s and how he started out overhauling apartment complexes with his father. And he built his real estate empire from there. There has to be some grasp of business and accordingly economics there.

      As for foreign policy, I don’t believe Ronald Reagan had much experience with that either, when he was elected President. And yet…..three guesses….first two don’t count….😉 [NOTE: I was an infantry captain when Reagan came into office. The changes he wrought in the military were highly effective. That’s ‘foreign policy’. And I professionally believe he staved off war with the Soviet Union and brought about its collapse in the early 90s.]

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      1. You can very much be a successful real estate developer and know shit about macroeconomics. For instance, here.

        If he wants to bring manufacturing back to the United States, perhaps making the conditions more attractive for companies to do so would make more sense. Making it more attractive for businesses involved in the supply chain to operate in the United States would probably help, since that’s part of the reason why Apple manufactures its phones in China. But what about the raw materials that are mined in China? Is Trump going to produce a magical unicorn to shit the raw materials needed to produce an iPhone here in the United States?

        Force Apple to relocate its manufacturing facility back to the United States, and you’ve just increased the cost of making an iPhone, because raw materials have to be shipped from Asia to Apple’s factories here. Aren’t iPhones expensive enough already?

        Plus, from what I’m reading, manufacturing in the United States is on the rise, not on the decline, and it is automation that is largely responsible for any reduction in American manufacturing jobs, not trade, but note how quickly Trump wants to kick free trade in the nuts.

        Or this:

        But there’s more to his buffoonery. Once again, he proves his love of force by claiming he will force Mexico to pay for a wall. How, pray tell, will he do that? When pressed for details, he rambles something about a trade deficit of $58 billion. OK, but what the hell does that have to do with forcing a sovereign nation to pay for America’s security measures? A trade deficit means that we buy more from Mexico than it does from us. Roughly $58 billion more. What the hell does that have to do with Mexico’s ability or even willingness to build a wall? No one knows. The Mexican government isn’t hoarding that $58 billion. It doesn’t belong to the government. But, don’t tell that to Trump, who implies that somehow he’s going to monkey around with the trade deficit to pay for a wall… What????? What the hell does “playing with the trade deficit” mean? Will he FORCE Mexico to purchase more from the United States? Will he FORCE U.S. customers to stop buying Mexican products? In any scenario, it seems he wants to fall back on government force to achieve his means (even though he has no hope of doing so). How can his love of force and his claim to love freedom be reconciled? They can’t. Not without significant changes to his platform, and I don’t see that happening.

        He also has no concept about what China’s yuan devaluation has done. He bitches and moans about China devaluing its currency in order to prop up its manufacturing, but fails to see that the yuan is in a freefall, and the Chinese can’t seem to stop it. It’s also causing record capital flight and is endangering China’s quest to get the yuan in the EU basket of currencies. So no, China isn’t “winning” over us just because we have a trade deficit.

        A trade deficit also means that our economy is actually growing. When the economy grows, we have more money to spend, and we purchase more from overseas, so a trade deficit can also be a sign of a recovering economy. And by the way, while our economic growth is slower than China’s, there are specific reasons for this, including the fact that developing economies such as China tend to grow at a much faster pace. It’s not unusual for developed countries to grow slower.

        So it is very possible to be an economic ignorant and still be a successful real estate developer. Macroeconomics has little to do with the kinds of deals this shitbag makes.

        As for foreign policy, Reagan knew what he didn’t know and appointed some very intelligent, well versed advisors. Trump spouts such complete and total nonsense, that it’s hard to even comprehend how someone with so little knowledge of what is currently going on in the world could possibly still be in the race. He thinks the military will follow his illegal orders to murder civilians, merely because he’s Trump?? He claims Germany and other European nations are doing nothing about Ukraine??? Is he even aware of the EU’s sanctions program or the Normandy talks that have resulted in the Minsk agreements that are LED by Germany and France?? He claims we’re spending billions and billions on NATO, but he doesn’t even have a comprehension of how NATO funding works! And worse yet, he doesn’t appear to want to know. He simply repeats the same garbage over and over again – each time with more assertiveness, as if that’s going to make his retardery somehow less retarded.

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    3. RE: Latest Reply

      WOWZERS! Can’t reply immediately to all of your thought-provoking items in it. Got a state-level organization meeting I’m the Director of for next week. Got to run some errands to run.

      Saving it and will address it later today or sometime tomorrow.

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  22. […] none of those things caused him to lose Wisconsin and lose ground. Things are just so unfair to poor Donald, because the GOP is conspiring against him to nominate the one person they absolutely hate […]

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  23. TO: Nicki
    RE: Economics to Macroeconomics and Other Issues

    Excuse me for pointing this out, but you’re changing the subject.

    When I point out that Trump obviously has to have a grasp of economics in order to have turned the family business into a billion-dollar empire, you change the subject to ‘macroeconomics’. Moving the proverbial goalposts is less than honest debate.

    But again, I’ll point out that Reagan—being merely a governor—didn’t have much experience with macroeconomics either. And, as we both recognize, he surrounded himself with smart people.

    How much would you care to wager that Trump does the same thing regarding the building and running of his own empire?

    There is a certain pattern to your objections to Trump. Most of which seem to related to a ‘lack of experience’ in this that or the other area: foreign policy, economics, macroeconomics.

    How many other areas of this sort do you want to trot out? The answer will always be the same, bring in smart people to be advisers.

    RE: ‘Forcing’ Apple and Mexico to His Will

    You say he can’t do it. Or he doesn’t know how. However, yesterday he did explain a plan to deal with Mexico. I’d like to see how that plays out.

    As for Apple, I’m not particularly worried about that. Apple—and other companies—will go where they will. If a President provides incentives that impel companies to relocate to the US, fine. That’s ‘impel’. Not compel.

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    1. Excuse me for pointing this out, but you’re changing the subject.

      No, I’m actually not.

      When I point out that Trump obviously has to have a grasp of economics in order to have turned the family business into a billion-dollar empire, you change the subject to ‘macroeconomics’. Moving the proverbial goalposts is less than honest debate.

      That’s not changing the subject. Macro-economic knowledge is needed to run the country. He keeps making promises that show he has zero grasp of econ. And no, you don’t need to know economics to run his real estate empire, other than the basics.

      How much would you care to wager that Trump does the same thing regarding the building and running of his own empire?

      I have my doubts, but YMMV.

      There is a certain pattern to your objections to Trump. Most of which seem to related to a ‘lack of experience’ in this that or the other area: foreign policy, economics, macroeconomics.

      Yes, I try to stick to substantive issues.

      TO: Nicki
      RE: Economics to Macroeconomics and Other Issues

      Excuse me for pointing this out, but you’re changing the subject.

      When I point out that Trump obviously has to have a grasp of economics in order to have turned the family business into a billion-dollar empire, you change the subject to ‘macroeconomics’. Moving the proverbial goalposts is less than honest debate.

      But again, I’ll point out that Reagan—being merely a governor—didn’t have much experience with macroeconomics either. And, as we both recognize, he surrounded himself with smart people.

      How much would you care to wager that Trump does the same thing regarding the building and running of his own empire?

      There is a certain pattern to your objections to Trump. Most of which seem to related to a ‘lack of experience’ in this that or the other area: foreign policy, economics, macroeconomics.

      How many other areas of this sort do you want to trot out? The answer will always be the same, bring in smart people to be advisers.

      Based on his foreign policy team, I doubt that will happen.

      RE: ‘Forcing’ Apple and Mexico to His Will

      You say he can’t do it. Or he doesn’t know how. However, yesterday he did explain a plan to deal with Mexico. I’d like to see how that plays out.

      As for Apple, I’m not particularly worried about that. Apple—and other companies—will go where they will. If a President provides incentives that impel companies to relocate to the US, fine. That’s ‘impel’. Not compel.

      His specific comment was “FORCE.”

      I didn’t hear about his plan for Mexico. Did he change his tactics again to shift away from the trade deficit?

      Look, your answer to everything seems to be, “Well, he’ll find good advisers.” Given his ego, I doubt it’s true, but that’s beside the point. I gave you very specific reasons why his inane blatherings are wrong and uninformed. Your reply is to ignore what I’ve said. OK, so be it. That’s not going to change my mind about Trump.

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  24. TO: Nicki
    RE: RE: On the Other Hand

    Why is it you believe that Senator Cruz—someone I believe to be an apparatchik of the GOP establishment (GOPe)—would be any better than what we’ve experienced since Reagan was President?

    Please allow me to expound on my observations of politics since 1980, when I started paying attention to politics. Admittedly from the dispassionate position of being an Army officer. Something you may not have followed so well from so early a period.

    I’ve observed a ‘pattern of behavior’ from both major parties. And the pattern seems to be directed against the Republic. I guess this theory stems from something written by a famous American writer of the 19th Century….

    Government has come to be a trade, and is managed solely on commercial principles. A man plunges into politics to make his fortune, and only cares that the world should last his days. — Ralph Waldo Emerson

    If you doubt this, maybe you should look into how Hillary, as a US Senator, made millions in the Stock Market. Better performance than most professionals in the Market.

    Then there’s the rampant crony capitalism, a la General Electric.

    All too many of the people elected to government office seem to be more interested in themselves than the general good. And the problem obviously has been around for quite some time. Probably—looking at human political history—it’s endemic to the human condition. Look at political corruption around the world.

    My point is that the GOPe is as much a part of the problem as the Progressives are. Their interests are not aligned with the people they represent. I’ve witnessed this personally as an active participant in county- and state-level GOP activities, being parliamentarian to the county organization, appointed delegate to state-level assemblies and campaign manager of the distaff’s run for the state assembly.

    If this states GOP organization any example of other states—and I believe it is—the entire GOP organization is at odds against what you and I joined the Army to defend.

    Therefore, I honestly believe that we need someone from outside the GOPe to improve the situation. And I think Trump is the solution. Maybe not the best choice. Not ‘perfect’, but I had issues with Reagan as well back in the 1980 election cycle.

    Trump, despite your belief that he is ‘inexperienced’. But as I pointed out earlier, so was Reagan.

    After all….

    ….The only Man who was truly ‘perfect’, got Himself nailed to a tree.

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    1. I absolutely agree that the GOPe is the problem, and if you read what I’ve written previously, you’ll see that you’re preaching to the choir.

      I don’t think Cruz is a savior of any kind, and I don’t think he’s perfect. But I also know he’s reviled by the GOPe, and he has fought them and taken a lot of flak for it. That said, I’ll take him.

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    2. RE: What You’ve Previously Posted about the GOPe

      Haven’t seen it. As I mentioned earlier, I’m not a regular visitor here.

      On the other hand, I doubt that Cruz is as much an ‘opponent’ of the GOPe. He may be outspoken about it at times, but the GOPe STILL supports him. And they fear Trump.

      The GOPe fears Trump so much that they even have Cruz siding with the rioters who protest at Trump rallies. Surly—being an Intel-type—you’re familiar with the term ‘KEY INDICATOR’….😉

      [NOTE: I DID get a LOT out of the Intelligence Preparation of the Battlefield (IPB) phase of CGSC back in ’88. I’ve found it VERY useful in venues other than military. Especially useful in politics’.]

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      1. Actually, if you look at what Cruz said, he didn’t “side with the rioters.” He said that a campaign bears responsibility for the type of environment it creates around itself. I don’t disagree with this. But I have never seen or heard him “side with the protesters.”

        The GOPe doesn’t support Cruz. At all. A couple of senators here and there do, including Mike Lee. But they hold him personally responsible for the government shutdown and they hate him for it, because the Republicans got the brunt of the blame for that. They can’t stand him. Even Trump admits that.

        And they’re right to fear Trump. Because he will destroy their party. Hard. He will also make a laughingstock of this country and take a large, steaming dump on our civil liberties in the process. I finally had a chance to look at that travesty he calls a “plan” to force Mexico pay for that wall. Dumbest. Most expensive. Unconstitutional. Retarded. Plan. Ever.

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    3. RE: Consider This….

      ….if what you say is accurate, that Cruz is ‘reviled’ by the GOPe, and what I say is true, the GOPe fears Trump, and the GOPe IS the ultimate enemy within the Republican Party…..

      ….who would be the better candidate to take the GOPe down?

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      1. Depends. Do you want to destroy the GOPe or the entire country?

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    4. TO: Nicki
      RE: What to ‘Destroy’….So Many Choices….

      Not interested in destroying the country I swore to defend. Just interested in those who would destroy the Constitution. I like the way Lincoln put it….

      Our safety, our liberty, depends upon preserving the Constitution of the United States as our fathers made it inviolate. The people of the United States are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution, but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. — Abraham Lincoln

      RE: Trump as the ‘Destructor’

      What evidence do you have that Trump would destroy the country? Or even the Constitution?

      I’d like to see SOMEONE trot out some reliable evidence. As all I’ve seen so far is nothing but the typical bombast one would expect from the Left.

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      1. What evidence do you have that Trump would destroy the country? Or even the Constitution?

        I’d like to see SOMEONE trot out some reliable evidence. As all I’ve seen so far is nothing but the typical bombast one would expect from the Left.

        As I’ve said in previous posts. There are reasons I will not discuss publicly. But at the same time I do not expect anyone to take my word for it. I have my reasons. They are solid. But they’re not something I’m willing to discuss. They’re also not something you can link to anyway. Believe it or not, but not everything in the world is on the Internet. Sorry. No. You can either believe me, or not. You can agree with me, or not. But I have very specific reasons for saying what I do.

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    5. TO: Nicki
      RE: Cruz on Trump Rally Rioting

      I took Cruz’s comment that the riots were Trump’s fault—for having a rally in Chicago—as implicit siding with the rioters.

      The rioters were obviously—in face of recent evidence of Leftist organizations paying such to show up at Trump events—mercenaries, as well as Leftists. People like the Occupiers. Lawless. And opposed to Freedom of Expression.

      In my considered personal and professional opinion, siding with such, even tacitly, is offensive to our concept of the Bill of Rights.

      RE: GOPe Fear of Trump

      Indeed. Trump will destroy THEIR ‘party’. Not the GOP but the GOPe.

      As I’ve commented elsewhere on the web, I’ve worked local politics—independent and GOP—in my county since the distaff ran for the state assembly. That was 2008.

      I’ve witnessed the blatant disregard the GOPe in this state has for the people that support the GOP. That as a rank and file worker and as a delegate from my county to state-level assemblies of the GOP.

      The GOPe must be uprooted and driven out or the GOP will die. Just like the Whigs died in the mid-1800s, to be replaced by the GOP.

      And I don’t think Cruz can do it. As I’ve said before, Cruz is too close to the GOPe. I think their ‘hatred’ of Cruz is just so much psyops.

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      1. In my considered personal and professional opinion, siding with such, even tacitly, is offensive to our concept of the Bill of Rights.

        I disagree. Having the right to do something doesn’t absolve you of the responsibilities that come along with it. Cruz never said anything other than that.
        And I don’t think Cruz can do it. As I’ve said before, Cruz is too close to the GOPe. I think their ‘hatred’ of Cruz is just so much psyops.

        Evidence doesn’t bear this out, but I’m not here to convince you. *shrug*

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  25. TO: Nicki
    RE: [OT] Background Info

    My background is pretty much in my profile. The only significant additions are my MOS: 11A92Z5, career path: Enlisted 1970. Commissioned 1975. Retired 1997. And my being a SAC-brat.

    What’s your military background?

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    1. Four years active duty as a 46R, and three years National Guard dual qualified as 46R and 46Q, but job performance mostly in intel. Not retired.

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    2. Pat Patterson

      Sorry, I’m slow.
      Did you just post that to piss down our legs with your military career? Because that’s how it just translated in my head RIGHT EFFING NOW.
      If anybody here was trying the PX ranger crap , that’s a good time to bust chops. But if you are attempting to get over because you were an officer/career/combat arm, then that’s low class.
      So why did you bring it up, and then ask Nicki about her service?

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      1. I took it in good faith. Thought he was just curious, since I’m a vet. I hope it was in good faith.

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        1. Nicki, It just seemed to be bragging coming out of left field, not related to ANYTHING else that was going on in the conversation.
          And I think I have the correct perspective when I say that there are a lot more southern ends of north-bound horses than northern ends of north-bound horses.

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    3. TO: Pat Patterson
      RE: PX Ranger? Moi?

      Hardly.. Giving and getting background info is something they taught at CGSC. Something to do with ‘Know Your Audience’ and let them know you. Saves a lot of time and guess work.

      You ever take the CGSC course?

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      1. I think what Pat was saying that it sounded like you were trying to boost your cred, while surreptitiously trying to discredit me. I don’t think that was the case. At least I hope not. Veterans just like to know about other veterans. *shrug* At least that’s the way I took it.

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      2. OK, really. You can stop with the “I’ve taken general Army officer courses” stuff already. No one here is impressed. Trust me.

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    4. RE: Impressed?

      Not that it matters whether anyone is impressed or not. It’s a point of background. If people don’t care to know about it, it’s not a problem to me. I offer it as solely to provide reliable information. Information I’ve found useful in venues other than the military since then. Things like how to use IPB in understanding political and corporate machinations.

      You, Pat and others can take it or leave it.

      Hope that helps….

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      1. You just keep bringing this stuff up. Meh.

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    5. RE: ‘General Officer Courses’?

      That’s not CGSC. That’s the War College at Carlisle Barracks. Never been there myself.

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      1. If it’s not the general officers course, then I’m not sure what you’re referring to. I was enlisted.

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    6. RE: Enlisted

      I was too. Then I got ‘stupid’ and went for a commission. I had more ‘fun’ as a sergeant. But being an officer was more challenging.

      Please don’t get me wrong about my reply here. I’m ‘bringing it up’ again in answer to your apparent misunderstanding.

      The Command and General Staff College (CGSC) is at Fort Leavenworth, Kansas. It teaches courses for company and field grade officers. Prepares them to be staff officers and commanders for battalion, brigade level organization and staff officers at division and corps levels.

      The War College is at Carlisle Barracks, Pennsylvania. It teaches courses for flag grade officers, a.k.a. generals. Full colonel’s attend it in order to be promoted to general officer.

      What I’ve learned at CGSC and even at the Logistics Executive Development Course (LEDC) out of the Army Logistics Management College (ALMC), Fort Lee, Virginia, I’m happy to share with anyone who cares to hear it. All they need do is ask.

      Why Pat gets defensive about my training is ‘odd’ to me. I’m pretty much an open book about it. And being such, I’ve encountered people who accuse me of being a ‘PX Ranger’. Don’t know why they do that. It’s almost as if they think I should be ashamed of what I’ve done.

      Hope that puts thinks into a better perspective.

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    7. TO: Pat Patterson
      RE: Ends of Equine Animals

      I’ve not encountered as many ‘PX Rangers’ on the web as apparently you have.

      On the other hand, not to worry about ‘offending’ me. I’ve been abused by the best. One each Colonel ‘No Slack’ Stack comes to mind. My battalion commander when I was a staff officer and later commanded an infantry company. No fingers on his right hand. Just the thumb and the first knuckle of the index finger.

      When dressing down young LTs, he’d tap them in the chest with the nub. It was known in the battalion as getting ‘Nubbing’.

      One day one of my company platoon leaders was about to go on the ‘carpet’ with Colonel Stack over some slight oversight. He showed up in my office with a telephone directory stuck in his BDU blouse and asked, “Do you think I’ve got enough body armor?”….😉

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    8. TO: Pat Patterson
      RE: Bragging? Moi?

      I was just giving you background so you would understand my part of this ‘audience’.

      If I were to be bragging—and I think you might be a vet yourself and should recognize ‘bragging’ when you see it—I would be saying something like….

      ….I’ve got more time in a T-10 than you have in that t-shirt.

      Or perhaps….

      ….I was jumping C130s before your father learned how to jump a prom date.

      In other words, some form of comparison between you and I.

      Hope that helps…..😉

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  26. You know, I did model UN once. Then I watched the real UN and realized that I was doing it wrong because I didn’t spend enough time bashing the Jews.

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    1. TO: Han
      RE: UN Realism

      Too funny.

      What was it He said about bashing the Jews…..

      And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee….– God speaking to Abraham, Gensis 12:3

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  27. Awesome article Nicki!🙂 I agree 100% and Hillary all the way for me!🙂 I hope that Trump Wall is never built!🙂 A+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

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