The Virginia “Justice” System

So… as many of you know, I’m in the process of trying to sell my house. It’s been on the market since January, and it appears I have a problem.

Initially, I told the tenants they could stay there as long as there was no problem putting the house on the market and showing it, so it could be sold. That means keeping it clean and staying out of the way of the realtors when they’re showing the place. But apparently, my tenants are swine. Not JUST swine, but deadbeat, thieving swine, who have sabotaged showings and open houses, who have essentially kept a zoo in my home that includes several dogs and cats, two flying squirrels, and a bird (when their lease specifies dogs only). Worse yet, people who have come to see the house, have said it’s dirty, cluttered, and smells.

After several such showings, and one disastrous open house when these “people” were asked to vacate for a few hours, but did not, I’d finally had enough. They were issued a termination letter in early February that told them they had until March 31st to vacate my house. A week before that date, I started getting panicked calls and messages during the workday. I returned the calls only to find out that they were asking for an extra week to remain in the home, all the while throwing around “God” and “I will pray” references, as if that should somehow sway me.

Now… I had painters scheduled to come and paint the house on April 1, but the wife swore they only needed a week and would be out by April 5th, so I asked the painters to wait for a few days. I also called my property manager to find out what the legal way to address this was. This is when I found out that even though they had two months to pack, they had not even started! Furthermore, the wife told me that they would find a storage space for all their stuff, and would move in with their daughter, but apparently that was not even planned.

I had instructed my property manager to file with the court giving them five days to vacate, and to sign an affidavit saying they would definitely be out by the 5th (which is what they had requested anyway – I just wanted to make it legally binding) and that they would pay rent for the extra days they remained in my house. After a week of not returning calls or emails about the issue, we received the following:

I’m sorry for the delayed response, I wasn’t ignoring your messages, it has been very long and busy day for us and just wanted to get through a peaceful dinner with the family. I understand that your notice gave us until today to be out of the property but unfortunately, for all parties involved, we have been unable to secure a new rental property. We are currently in process of packing and preparing for the move. I do apologize for any inconvenience that this has caused, but with a family and a child currently in school I simply just cannot move us all out on the street. We are in process of renting a storage unit for a worst case scenario, we will try to be out as soon as possible as we are able.

We cannot sign any additional agreements at this time. I will be in touch as soon as I have secured a property or have figured out other arrangements. Thank you for patience and hopefully understanding.

David and Pamela Cooper

You know why they couldn’t secure a new property? Because David Cooper is a registered sex offender.  That’s right. Convicted in 2000 of three counts of carnal knowledge of a child 13-15 years old and spent several years in prison for it. This child rapist served time for 3 felony counts – something they didn’t reveal when they were applying to rent my house (to be fair, they weren’t legally required to do, but given they’re allegedly “Christians,” it would have been the honorable thing to do)!

What these slimy, lying pieces of detritus are essentially telling me is “We’re not leaving your house until we’re good and ready. We don’t care if the owner is being screwed. We don’t care if we’re financially burdening her. We’re going to eat our dinner and live in peace on property that is not ours, because WE CAN, that’s why.” Occupying someone’s property without their permission and without payment is called squatting, and that’s exactly what they’re doing.

Well, let me tell you something you kid-buggering pigs – it is my property. It’s property I work two jobs to pay for. It’s property I purchased with my hard-earned money. You are not entitled to remain there past the date I set. You are not entitled to the fruits of my efforts. You are not entitled to occupy my property without my OK and without even paying me, while I default on my mortgage, because of your criminal acts.

And that’s exactly what they’re doing. They haven’t paid rent for this month. They haven’t even attempted. They’re living in my house free of charge knowing that I cannot afford to pay both my mortgage and the rent where we live, and they don’t care. I’ve had to pay the painters to stay on the job, even though the contract said April 1, and I’m out more than $1100 so far because they haven’t been able to do the job they have been contracted to do.

I work my ass off. I did not have sex with a kid, like Cooper has done. I did not ruin my career and my life. I took care to ensure that I followed the law. I went to school. I went to grad school. I earned every goddamn square inch of my property! Your presence is repulsive to my sense of morality and decency, and your constant references to God and prayer make me even sicker, given the fact that you are a child rapist, David Cooper, and you’re an enabling shrew, Pam Cooper. And all your screeching about God and how you will pray doesn’t make you a good person. It makes you a repugnant, lying, hypocritical pig.

On April 7, I finally got sick and tired of them, so I sent Pam Cooper a text. The following conversation ensued – bolded comments are mine:

Me to squatters: So after begging and telling me you would be out by the 5th, you have STILL not vacated my property and have now cost me $500 (that’s in addition to more than $600 I had prepaid for the job to begin on 1 April for a total of $1100 that includes supplies), because I had to pay the painters, who have not been able to come in and do the work they have been contracted to do thanks to your refusal to leave. You know my financial situation, and yet, you have sabotaged me financially. And you call yourselves “Christians”????

Thieving squatters: I am trying my best to accommodate your needs but I simply just cannot move my family out on the street. We have nowhere else to go? It’s not that we haven’t been trying, only God knows our situation. I’m sorry you don’t understand but at least you have a roof over your head. Should I sacrifice breaking my family apart just so you are not unconvinced (that should be inconvenienced, but she’s illiterate as well as self righteous. Apparently being completely broke because thieving scum is squatting in your house is a mere “inconvenience.”)? You are not the only person with problems. We have lost our family home, business and all assets. (Maybe if your husband didn’t have sex with a kid, that wouldn’t have happened.) If that’s YOUR idea of being a Christian I want no part of it, it’s the man-made organized religion that is destroying our world. I do have faith in God and Jesus Christ and know that He has a plan, my faith is all that I have left now. (No, apparently you still have my house, which you refuse to vacate, you thieving bitch.)

Me: You have had two months to move. You got an extra week in which you PROMISED me you would be out. TWO MONTHS. I’m past caring. You made a promise and now you are in the process of destroying me financially. So stop throwing prayer and God references around. You lied to me and are now STEALING from me by refusing to leave property that does not belong to you. Faith? Please! This is not what I or anyone with half a heart would consider Christian. You have had TWO MONTHS in which you have done nothing. At this point I consider you thieves. Period.

Thieving squatters: So now you are discriminating against our faith, what next our race? (Victim much? Apparently thieving is OK as long as you claim to be a Christian) I never lied to you nor have I stolen anything from you. You are very emotional and delusional. (Yes, because having thieving squatters in my house refusing to leave my property or pay for it is obviously delusional. English – do you speak it?) You know nothing about our situation. (On the contrary. Your situation is all over the VA sex offender registry). I’ve been looking for over two months and trying to get out as soon as we can.

Me: No. I’m saying you’re NOT a Christian. You broke your promise. You have cost me money I don’t have. You are endangering me financially. You had two months to pack. You haven’t. You told me you’re moving in with your daughter and you needed a few extra days to pack. You lied. And now you’ve forced the painter to push back the contract and forced me to pay him $500 I had to borrow. You refuse to vacate property that does not belong to you, and property I work two jobs to pay for. That’s called stealing. And as far as I’m concerned you are not Christians, because Christians wouldn’t lie to someone and steal. Leave my property. I want to hear nothing more about it.

This is what calls itself Christian nowadays, apparently. As you can see, the attitude is staggering. Forcing me to go even further into debt, sabotaging my selling my property, STEALING my property from me is now called an “inconvenience,” because apparently I’m rich, and they NEED my property, so they’re entitled to it.

So here’s where we stand now.

There was a court hearing this morning on granting me possession of my own property from these child-molesting thieves and liars. They blatantly lied to the judge, telling him that they gave a $2400 security deposit. They did NOT. And despite the fact that they are not paying rent, have been given a termination notice and two months to move, have consciously sabotaged efforts to sell this home, including allowing their dogs to piss inside my house, and violating the lease by keeping more animals in my house than were allowed in the lease, they disputed my claim and THE JUDGE SIDED WITH THEM. I’m not even kidding. He gave them until July 9, at which point there will be a trial to determine whether they are legally allowed to remain on my property. And worse yet… the judge told them they only had to pay April rent, leaving me without a mortgage payment for the next two months.

Not only do David Cooper, who is a registered sex offender who slept with a child, and his enabling, disgusting wife Pamela Cooper get to remain on property that is not theirs…

…THEY DON’T EVEN HAVE TO PAY FOR IT, according to this idiot judge!

Meanwhile, let’s recap.

I’ve paid the painters $1100 so far to do a job they cannot do.

I have no money to pay the mortgage, which will endanger my clearance and my job.

They lied about how much they paid for a security deposit.

And yet, this judge has decided they can stay on my property free of charge until the trial!

Where is the justice here? This is the Virginia “justice” system?????????????

OK, you child molesting bastard. Enjoy the foreclosure.

39 responses

  1. Since it is your home, you are entitled to do home repairs.

    At 3am.

    With power tools.

    Right?

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    1. Scott, landlords, even landlords in the right, can only do reasonable repairs at reasonable times. Power tools at 3am could actually get a judge to side with letting them stay there, and even give them grounds to sue HER for damages.

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      1. That’s correct.

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  2. Nicki, you have to stop being nice to people who don’t deserve.

    Get a construction or real estate attorney to file an eviction with the sheriff/police** and get them evicted that way. There have to be ordinances in place that protect landlords from bad tenants, just as there are ordinances in place that protect tenants from bad landlords.

    Don’t take that decision as the only answer there is. It isn’t.

    **Around here, it’s the county sheriff who does the evicting. A construction or real estate attorney can dig up the ordinances they’ve violated, and you can ask him if he’ll do it pro bono or set up payment arrangements.

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    1. Sara. Trial is on the 9th. Attorney gotten. Unfortunately, it’s just going to take time.

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    2. This is not me being nice. This is me following the diktat of an evil, ignorant judge.

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  3. […] The Virginia “Justice” System […]

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  4. Talk to your security folks and let them know what is happening. This situation happens way more than you know. In my DOD contractor days, I had 3 guys go through similar situations. As long as Security knows about it up front, you’re usually better off. It’s when they find out after the fact that times get difficult.

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    1. Already done.🙂

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    2. Good deal. When it comes to your clearances, it’s better to be upfront with your issues.

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      1. Oh, yeah. Absolutely. Self reporting.

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  5. “….they are not paying rent, have been given a termination notice and two months to move, have consciously sabotaged efforts to sell this home, including allowing their dogs to piss inside my house, and violating the lease by keeping more animals in my house than were allowed in the lease…”

    Sounds like passive aggression to me.

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  6. Don’t know if this helps, but:

    http://www.landlordology.com/tenant-eviction/

    And feel free to add them to this:

    http://www.badtenantslist.net/
    http://www.donotrentto.com/
    http://www.tenancybureau.com/REPORT-BAD-TENANT.php?Country=United%20States

    They definitely deserve to have this reported to their credit, impacting their ability to rent in the future:

    http://homeguides.sfgate.com/report-bad-tenants-credit-bureaus-3036.html

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  7. […] buddy, Nicki, bumped up against the Virginia justice system recently when she tried to boot some derelicts out […]

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  8. Well, you got a lawyer I hope. Can’t speak for VA law, but here in FL, its a notice, followed by a complaint for eviction which in this type of situation seeks only possession, period. Your judge sounds like an idiot.

    I enjoy your site though.

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  9. Another thought or three – call your lender and ask them about options. Some lenders will allow you to defer your mortgage payment for a month or two.

    Short sale? Maybe – but IRS regs treat the difference between what the sale brought and what the amount owed on the mortgage was as income, to you. And you get taxed. Most times, not that big a deal, but talk to a tax professional.

    You probably are kicking yourself and already thought of this – you had a written lease, that’s good. The lease should always spell out exactly what was paid and what the payments were for. It should also have a paragraph in there that states that no other payments and no other agreements were made but those in the lease.

    I then go even further and tell clients to document payments and what those payments are for by writing “rent”, “deposit,” etc, on the certified check or money order. That way if they go to court and lie, I take out that documentation and completely discredit them.

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  10. Which county is this? In Henrico it usually takes 4-6 months to get the government to come in and remove the people. You have to find their new place to serve them papers to get rent and damages for those 4-6 months. However there’s never any real doubt about who the judge will side with.

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    1. This is Frederick County, and unfortunately, apparently a new judge.😦

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  11. Just because they claim to be Christians, that doesn’t make it so. The Westboro types make the same claim. But Paul and the others were pretty clear when they said that people will know real Christians by their deeds. These folks are just mouthing the words. They might as well claim to be the Obamas.

    Sorry that you have to deal with this. Let me know if there’s anything that I can do to help.

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    1. That’s why I put “Christians” in parentheses. They’re thieves. They prayed to Jesus on this? Did Jesus tell them to steal my house? Is that how it goes?

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  12. I feel your pain. I have an “investment property” that I’m probably going to have to turn over to the bank “deed in lieu” due to a tenant that is over $7 grand behind in rent. Turns out I’m not cut out to be a landlord.

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    1. Have you tried to evict the bastard?

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  13. Not yet. He agreed in February to keep current and start paying some additional per month to repay the missing rent. They were good tenants and because they did pay each month we let them pay late (with the additional $100 late fee). Eventually we allowed them to make the month payment in two installments as it fit better into their pay schedules. Over the course of years that drifted into several payments per month but always fully paid by month’s end. Then it started drifting across months and it became very confusing. I finally figured out last year just how far behind they were and both me and my business partner/friend were surprised.

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    1. What a nightmare. You give someone an inch, and they take everything. And you wind up losing your property.

      I have no hope of keeping my property, but I will take these bastards down with me.

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  14. I’ve been a Cop in Chicago for the last 18 years. After the name “Miller”, “Cooper” is the one I’ve encountered most often dealing with Travelers and/or Gypsies.

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  15. […] hand at blogging, and I’m humbled and honored that his first blog post is about the problems David and Pamela Cooper have caused to my financial (and emotional) well being by essentially stealing my […]

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  16. […] I had my text exchange with Pamela Cooper regarding her and her child rapists husband’s insistence on staying in my house after the […]

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  17. Can you shut off power to your property? I would.

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  18. Given that they’re occupying your property illegally, perhaps one of the agencies that deals with Child Protection would be interested in taking their children to a safer home.

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  19. Brian Gillispie

    Perhaps you should have the property fumigated. One of those deals where they come in and tent off the property. Once all critters and people are out of the house hire some (10-15) day laborers to come move their stuff onto the street. That large a group of workers can clear even a hoarder out of a property in about an hour. Turn off the water and electricity, call the utilities and let them know you are having work done on the water main (your side of the meter) and fuse box. Have a locksmith on hand to change the locks all in one fell swoop. With planning and coordination you could have them out before they know what is happening to them.

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    1. Doesn’t work that way, Brian. I have to follow the letter of the law. And right now, I have to wait until the court date.

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  20. As a landlord aren’t you allowed to check on the property as long as the tenant gets notice that you will be doing so? I would be checking in person or through an approved agent every other day. Tenants have been known to strip the copper pipes out of walls to sell. Document and date any damage with video. I know this doesn’t help with the current situation but it may help in court later. I agree with the person who said to report it to the credit agencies. Any other “karma” will have to wait til
    after the court date to be delivered. (Pictures of them on the web in various places so other landlords don’t get sucked in comes to mind).

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  21. Having had a little experience with the worst sort of tenants, I’ve found that the least expensive way to get them to leave is to bribe them. It’s a bit too late now, as it’s gone to court, but promising a few hundred dollars if they’re out by a certain date without damages to the property has gotten even the most manipulative and vindictive tenants to leave my family’s rentals. It’s much less expensive than lawyer’s fees.

    These people will take the path of least resistance and will do whatever they think is best for themselves. If greasing the wheels a bit makes their priorities align with yours, it’s much better than a protracted and expensive fight in a system that’s rigged against you.

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    1. I doubt these vermin would leave for a few hundred bucks. And giving money to these thieves when I don’t have money to pay my mortgage thanks to them

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  22. Did you have trouble with these tenants before you put the house up for sale?

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    1. I had trouble with them paying late. I wound up late with my mortgage in January because of their lateness, but we never evicted them. Should have. They were late all the time.

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  23. Sincere sympathies for what you are going through. I have decided to NEVER ever rent my house under any circumstances that I can think of. Hope you can get those thieves out of there somehow and also recoup your losses from them. The judge who sided with them ought to be exposed in every way possible—it’s hard to comprehend. Seems like the most corrupt people in the country are the ones that occupy all the seats of power. So sorry……..blessings on you.

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    1. Thank you so much, Helen. I’m just appalled by this. It’s like homeowners’ rights don’t matter. My livelihood doesn’t matter. Nothing matters. It’s sad.

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