Here’s hoping there’s a second degree murder charge in this shameful bitch’s future

There’s not a whole lot I can say right now about this story without unleashing a torrent of obscenities so severe, my screen will actually shatter.

(CNN) – At least 40 U.S. veterans died waiting for appointments at the Phoenix Veterans Affairs Health Care system, many of whom were placed on a secret waiting list.

The secret list was part of an elaborate scheme designed by Veterans Affairs managers in Phoenix who were trying to hide that 1,400 to 1,600 sick veterans were forced to wait months to see a doctor, according to a recently retired top VA doctor and several high-level sources.

Egregious? No.

This is criminal. This is enraging. This is twisted and sick.

Worse yet, the sociopathic cuntwart who runs the Phoenix VA not only knew about this secret list, which was designed to falsify information about waiting times at he Phoenix VA, but she defended its use!

Defended it!

She defended the practice that covered up the scandalous wait times at the VA – for veterans who have earned the care, and who were proud to have served their nation – and KILLED THEM.

MURDERED THEM.

According to [Dr. Sam] Foote, the elaborate scheme in Phoenix involved shredding evidence to hide the long list of veterans waiting for appointments and care. Officials at the VA, Foote says, instructed their staff to not actually make doctor’s appointments for veterans within the computer system.

Instead, Foote says, when a veteran comes in seeking an appointment, “they enter information into the computer and do a screen capture hard copy printout. They then do not save what was put into the computer so there’s no record that you were ever here,” he said.

According to Foote, the information was gathered on the secret electronic list and then the information that would show when veterans first began waiting for an appointment was actually destroyed.

“That hard copy, if you will, that has the patient demographic information is then taken and placed onto a secret electronic waiting list, and then the data that is on that paper is shredded,” Foote said.

“So the only record that you have ever been there requesting care was on that secret list,” he said. “And they wouldn’t take you off that secret list until you had an appointment time that was less than 14 days so it would give the appearance that they were improving greatly the waiting times, when in fact they were not.”

This deplorable procedure was confirmed by other VA employees, and one even wrote an email, telling Phoenix VA Director Sharon Helman that this practice was morally and ethically repugnant.

“I have to say, I think it’s unfair to call any of this a success when Veterans are waiting 6 weeks on an electronic waiting list before they’re called to schedule their first PCP (primary care physician) appointment,” the e-mail states. “Sure, when their appointment is created, it can be 14 days out, but we’re making them wait 6-20 weeks to create that appointment.”

The e-mail adds pointedly: “That is unethical and a disservice to our Veterans.”

No shit! Really?

Helman apparently thought nothing of it. When CNN requested an interview, she ignored them, and then sent an arrogantly dismayed response about how shockingly “disheartening” these allegations were, and how she is “open to any collaborative discussion that assists in our goal to continually improve patient care.”

You know what would improve patient care, you rancid cockholster? Your immediate firing, charges of goddamn murder and fraud, and your immediate incarceration in PMITA prison (for those of you who don’t know, it’s Poke Me In The Ass prison). You want collaborative discussion, you fetid ass jizz gurgler?

Here’s collaborative discussion. Let’s figure out multiple ways for you to get violated in prison. I’m sure the inmates can find plenty of sharp, rusty objects to shove up your useless ass.

Here’s hoping you become a cum dumpster for every unwashed, syphilitic hobo and a receptacle for every piece of garbage and get stuffed with used tampons, toilet paper, snot wads and every other imaginable piece of refuse like a stuffed turkey in every foul orifice you own. You have earned the most painful exit out of this world possible in the country’s worst, most violent and dangerous prison, you fraudulent, lying, sociopathic cunt. And I hope if hell does exist, there’s a special place in it for you – a place where you’re repeatedly flayed by rusty sporks and dipped in hydrochloric acid, only to be healed, flayed again and dunked again so you feel unimaginable agony for eternity.

You will have earned it.

30 responses

  1. I think it’s horrible that they had to wait so long, but in regards to waiting a couple months, I just thought that was status quo across the VA system.

    My VA clinic (not Phoenix) provides me with the best care they can, but for the last several years I’ve been with them, the appointments have always been three months out. They just recently eliminated any sort of walk in care–so it’s either wait your three months, or call the hotline and pass your message onto a nurse and hope the Dr. calls in a referral. Again, they’re good people, but I’m elated I just got on Medicaid because this means I can ring someone up and be seen within a week (feels like a miracle at this point).

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    1. No. The thing is they created this system to hide their horrible wait times. The times really vary across the system. But to send an urgently I’ll patient home to wait six weeks while lying about he wait time is beyond appalling! Fuckers.

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    2. It’s unfortunate the guy didn’t have something else (like Medicaid or Medicare) that could have helped him.

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  2. Nicki,
    what do you really think of Ms. Helman? You shouldn’t sugarcoat your feelings for people like this; it will give you an ulcer holding it all in!

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  3. Wait, so you’re saying that government run health care is rife with idiots and corruption? That’s unpossible! His Most Imperiously High Holiness King Obama I and his drooling horde of minions have decreed otherwise. And, if you can’t trust your King, then who can you trust?

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    1. It must make your head hurt to channel libtards like that.

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  4. This scam seems to be SOP for some of our government offices. While not egregious like the VA story, the BATFE does the same with the $200 applications for transfers of class 3 items like sound suppressors. Federal law states the applications will be approved within 90 days, but they routinely take close to a year. They let the applications sit till they can get them done in the 90 days, and only then mark them “pending” so they are not violating their own law.

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  5. Even at its best, a bureaucracy is a cumbersome beast. When the incompetent and immoral are involve d- which is the typical situation – you find such things.

    Keelhauling is the best punishment. Before sunset today is the best time.

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  6. Ms. Nicki – I can tell you one thing about this article… My VAMC Director hasn’t seen it but will in about 30 minutes at morning standup. I’m the Records Manager and Alternate Privacy Officer at a VA Medical Center and a couple things in the story just don’t work when applied to the Medical Records system referred to as CPRS- Now, I have enough proper accesses and experience to know just how many Vets we need to get in to see versus how many Docs we have to see them and that ratio ain’t pretty…On top of it all… as A VETERAN myself I DO wonder about “the system” sometimes. I can say we CONSTantly try and do things faster-smarter-better but that constant change causes all sorts of problems in itself. Pisser about the whole mess is that this is about the 3rd or 4th VERY troubling article about the VA that hit the news since Jan 1st. We really fuck-up in how we run the “business”, hell NO TWO VA hospitals even remotely have to do things the same way. From who works for whom to the mail-code to send us mail is not the same between any two or more facilities. The Director has FINAL say on EVERYTHING in their facility from the uniform the housekeepers and VA Cops wear down to who the people who actually make the appointments actually work for. AND most Directors “trust” their senior staff to do what needs to be done in the right way just like a Base, Wing or Division Commander of the Captain of a Navy ship. The lack of training of staff and minimal accountability are the root problem. Unless it hits the news no one’s feet get held to the fire to do their job. When we DO have an inspection, the IG comes in looks, writes us up, and goes away. If we’re found to be in violation of a directive or in one case with me, ignoring a federal statute, they (senior staff) can choose by commission or omission to ignore the findings and keep on violating. At the end of the day, despite all the crap- I can look back and KNOW I helped another Vet somehow…honestly, it’s the only reason I stay here. Yeah, this gets me goin’ sorry.

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    1. I fully understand bureaucracy and inefficiencies. It’s pretty egregious, and fact is there aren’t enough doctors for all the patients. I get that. But this… this is an intentional attempt to hide inefficiencies, paint this particular VA hospital as something better than it is, and lie – LIE to dying people! I can’t even… I’m so goddamn pissed off about this, that Great Pumpkin forbid I ever see this Helman bitch! It would make Rick’s chewing of that bad guy’s jugular in the season finale of “The Walking Dead” a pony ride!

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    2. Ms Nicki – in reading some of the comments here I gotta call BullShit. I’va had Vets who knew as a VA Cop for ten years come in totalk to me as a records or Privacy guy about how an employee treated them. Far more often it’s positive rather than negative and I’ve come across Vets sleeping in a waiting area or in their car and they do it because they feel safe here. I’ve had to deal with fellow Vets who would rather come here and travel 10 hours to get here than to go to there local/nearest VA. I’m in Vermont and the guy from NYC was a prime example. Hated the Mahattan VA, rode a Geyhound all the way to Vermont for his appointments because as a Vet YOU get to choose which VA to go to. Goes back to what I said about each VA doing things there own way. I KNOW people here have been put on Performance Improvement Plans , counseled, given reprimands../. no terminations that I KNOW happened because of the way they treated a Vet. Then again, not like it’s announced or anything…

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      1. Well, personnel matters are generally not announced, as you said, and experiences will differ from place to place. But that doesn’t mean that the horror stories are bullshit. And fact remains that this particular director and this particular VA have been so repulsively, egregiously corrupt, that the very thought of them makes me want to fly into a rage! This has been confirmed by the emails CNN obtained, so it’s not just hearsay.

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    3. No, I’m soul afraid you’re right Ms. Nicki. We are driven to make artificial due-dates and have records posted within x-hours and non-VA bills paid within 30-60-90 days and so on ad naseum. This list was their attempt to game the system to show that everyone gets their appointment within 30 days IAW the directions of VA Central Office,,, so in trying to fake their results they allowed at least 40 ultimate failures. Now the problem is the assholes who came up with this will at worst get transferred elsewhere with maybe one termination as an example. Please know, nothing I say here is an excuse…my reference to BS is the simple fact that once entered in the medical records system you cannot just delete something, it just doesn’t work that way. What’s more, it records every entry, the name, date, and time of the entry. There’s a single person on each site who can legally delete something from the records- the Chief of Health Information Management and even then it’s really only hidden not entirely removed. Investigators will find the records and can do it remotely from DC. I question this “retired VA senior doctor’s” motivation… why wait until he’s retired?Sorry again, TMI.

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  7. Nicki, Earlier this year I tried to get help for my best friend, a Korean combat vet with a Purple Heart and a Bronze Star. The VA told me it would be six months to a year before they could even give me a “yes or no”. I explained that he was 83 years old and needed help NOW! They said, Oh, well.” My friend died a month later without ever receiving a thing from VA. (Oh, they did supply a US flag for his funeral.) This clown of an organization makes me sick. I guess vets are not an important voting bloc. I hate the VA!

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    1. OMG, that’s horrible! I’m so sorry you lost your friend, Paul! I’ve heard mixed bag stories about the VA. Mine was irritating. I got my appointment fairly quickly – within a couple of weeks – but wound up sitting in the waiting room for THREE HOURS alone – as in no one else was there, not even a nurse or a receptionist – before a doctor even showed up. This is particularly egregious because they literally killed people, while covering up their ineptitude!

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  8. As I’ve said so many times before in so many places, until these azzhats start personally experiencing consequences for their criminal acts, nothing will change.

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  9. Doesn’t Texas still have “The cunt needed killing” defense?

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  10. Nevermind. Age and damage is catching up with me. This is AZ, not TX.

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    1. Drain bamage?😉

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    2. Yep. Seems that way more and more lately. Still waiting for a VA appointment to get checked out…

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  11. This is what is in store for us when government health care is finally fully implemented.

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    1. but… but… if you like your healthcare plan, you can keep your healthcare plan…he promised…

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  12. My father went to that VA. They put him off and told him he would have to go without insulin for ‘a few weeks’ before he could be seen. We found better care. He recently passed away, but it wasn’t due to their lack of care, since I was able to pay for what he needed. For those who couldn’t…

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  13. Ms. Nicki -word just came down that the Quadrad was fired at the Phoenix VA Medical Center. Washington VA Central Office terminated the Director, Associate Director, Chief of Staff (senior Doctor), and the Associate Director for Nursing Services (senior Nurse) as the facility leaders. Good news, they’re gone. Better news, termination means no more Gubmint jobs for these career bureaucrats…bad news, I doubt seriously anything more will come of it. Families have started suing the VA but no word on direct lawsuits aimed at any of the key morons…

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    1. Thanks for the info, Ole Wolf. I’ll post an update real quick with your comment, if you don’t mind.

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  14. […] is that there have been some consequences from the recent story about the VA’s obscene secret waiting list that resulted in veterans waiting months for appointments and dying in the process. Commenter […]

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  15. In England, the National Health Service calls this kind of thing the “Liverpool Protocol”, which also includes secretly denying actual care while telling the patient that they are receiving care while they are actually just being given painkillers so they won’t notice that they are being deliberately starved to death by the hospital (this is in-patient care). This is where we’re headed.

    My mother once worked (in the ’80s) in admissions for what was the only hospital in the County, located in the County seat. It’s reputation was so bad that when a competing hospital opened just outside of town, it closed in under one year. After she left that job (several years before it closed), she volunteered one day a week at the local VA hospital (in a neighboring county). It was so bad there that she could only stand to do it for 3 months. She said the staff truly didn’t care, and it was a place you went, not for treatment, but to die. This is also a precursor of things to come.

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  16. Another thing….I definitely don’t want to come off as an apologist for VA healthcare. I defend a very (very) small part of the VA healthcare, but the vast majority of it is nonexistent or it sucks. Had an appointment this morning, and without going into detail, let’s just say my healthcare plan is going nowhere fast.

    VA healthcare–and probably the claims process–is severely broken and seems to exist just to make the VA look better. This is so typical. An example of VA healthcare:

    (It’s now early May 2014)

    VA: You want an appointment? No problem….it looks like we have one available August 17th at 7:14 p.m. That doesn’t work? OK….let’s see….our next available is December 12th at 12:30. Can’t make that? No problem……would……March 23, 2015 at 5:46 work for you?

    Private provider: OK, can you make Monday at 9:00 a.m.? We also have an 11:30 or 1:00 if that doesn’t work.

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  17. Yeah, they basically killed a friend and neighbor of mine some years ago, he was having chest pains and shortness of breath, went to the VA docs. They told him ( no joke) that it was anxiety and overeating, gave him some sample bottles of – i think it was Maalox, don’t recall for sure – and sent him home. He died about 4:00 with a heart attack. Unless they start letting real active-service vets run things instead of guys who asskiss their way op the political ladder, you know it ain’t gonna change. Government treats vets like toilet paper – use them once then flush them.

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