If you nominate this fetid fat fuck as your Presidential candidate for 2016, I WILL vote for a Democrat, even if that Democrat is Hillary Clinton!
New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie is ripping libertarians – including Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.). – for challenging government surveillance programs and failing to understand the dangers of terrorism.
Christie, who appeared on the panel with Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal, Indiana Gov. Mike Pence and Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker, said people who are questioning government surveillance programs should confront the families affected by the 9/11 attacks.
“These esoteric, intellectual debates — I want them to come to New Jersey and sit across from the widows and the orphans and have that conversation. And they won’t, because that’s a much tougher conversation to have,” Christie said, warning that after the next terrorist attack Americans may point to “this intellectual debate.”
“The next attack that comes, that kills thousands of Americans as a result, people are going to be looking back on the people having this intellectual debate and wondering whether they put…” Christie said before trailing off.
Not only is Christie a would-be, pathetic, authoritarian shitbag, he’s also using the typical tactic of most fascist bags of fug, invoking the thousands dead in the September 11th attack to push surveillance programs which may not do a whole lot to prevent such an attack.
Let’s look at the now-declassified, famous Presidential Daily Brief (PDB) that warned the Bush administration about possible terrorist attacks.
Clandestine, foreign government, and media reports indicate Bin Ladin since 1997 has wanted to conduct terrorist attacks in the US.
Clandestine, foreign government and media reports.
What is conspicuously missing from this PDB? SIGINT. Signals intelligence. That is what the NSA does. But the Intelligence Community got this warning pretty much dead on without SIGINT.
Intelligence and warnings are no good unless the leadership listens, and this particular PDB got it right, and nothing was done, unfortunately. Would this report have been ignored had NSA reporting been included in it? Would the administration have magically decided that the warning is now more trustworthy and viable because signals intelligence was included? I doubt it.
Hindsight is 20/20, so we can speculate all we want. But fact of the matter is SIGINT was not what made this warning piece correct. HUMINT reporting, press and information from our allies did.
And yet, Christie insists that somehow libertarians are “dangerous” for wanting to ensure our rights are protected?
Look, I know a lot of libertarians are pretty unrealistic when it comes to the NSA. The calls for dismantling the agency emanating from some are clueless and deluded. That said, there needs to be a balance between protecting the rights to privacy of American citizens and protecting us from terrorist threats. This is what Rand Paul and other liberty Republicans want to do. This is what many libertarians want to do (not referring to the party, but to the ideology of freedom and liberty and very limited government).
I know NSA is not the evil behemoth many libertarians want to believe it is, and de-funding the agency as a whole would be monumentally stupid, especially given the technological advances of our era in use by many adversaries.
Some legislators, including Rand Paul, want to require a warrant before allowing any government agency to search the phone records of Americans. This is what’s so horribly dangerous, according to Chris Christie? Is this so unreasonable?
An amendment recently passed in the House, championed by Mike Pompeo of Kansas, aims to protect the civil liberties of Americans.
…the amendment properly requires that no funds can be used by the NSA to collect or store the content of American citizens’ communications data. This includes phone calls and emails. The amendment; however, does not seem to restrict the NSA’s ability to continue collecting and storing massive amounts metadata.
An amendment proposed by Justin Amash would have prevented the NSA from using any funds at all to collect any data on persons that are not under investigation.
There are folks in Congress working to achieve that balance between national security and civil liberties.
From what I can see, Christie couldn’t possibly care less about the latter. He simply uses the “national security” mantra to push for statism in this country.
Not like we didn’t know this before, given his shoddy record on guns.
Not like we didn’t know this before, given his appointment of an anti-gun RINO as interim US Senator.
Not like we didn’t know this before, given his strident opposition to off-shore drilling anywhere near his own backyard.
Not like we didn’t know this before, given his entitled screeching about Washington’s failure to give his state taxpayer dollars after Hurricane Sandy, despite the fact that the bill was laden with pork.
You know who’s dangerous? Chris Christie.
And if Porky becomes the GOP’s presidential nominee, the Republican Party deserves yet another loss.
First there was McCain, who was a massive FAIL at challenging George W. Bush. Idiot Republicans decided that it was a good idea to stick the RINO Cryptkeeper at the top of their ticket – the guy who lost to Bush, whose popularity ratings at the time of the 2008 Elections were somewhere between athlete’s foot and herpes. This is the guy the GOP thought would defeat the Democrats? Right.
Then there was Romney. In its infinite wisdom, the Republican establishment chose as its heir apparent to the presidential nominee the guy who lost to the guy who lost to Obama in the previous presidential election! Really, GOP?
There’s a reason I haven’t voted for a Republican presidential candidate since 1992.
This trend will continue if Christie gets the nod. Except not only will I continue reject the GOP, I will actively work to defeat Christie, and will encourage everyone I know to vote Democrat that year!