At the Gun Violence Forum (UPDATED WITH NEW VID)

Presented by: Congressman Jim Moran. Yes – that Jim Moran.

Panel: Retired ATF Agent Dave Chipman, Josh Horwitz with the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence, City of Alexandria Police Chief Earl Cook, Jonathan Lowy of the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence and former counsel for the Senate Judiciary Committee Karen Marangi.

What was missing: Gun rights representatives on the panel.

What was blatantly obvious: the metric assload of gun rights advocates wearing bright orange “GUNS SAVE LIVES” stickers on their clothing who came out in support of the Second Amendment.

The panel spoke for an hour. Karen Marangi is actually with Mayors Against Illegal Guns, and she tried like hell to make her organization seem moderate – not like the band of criminals wanting to deprive people of their rights they are – and the legislation Washington is trying to impose on us not the malodorous, noxious infringement on our rights it really is.

Chipman had the most useful presentation of all of them, explaining carefully and fully the difference between what the politicians like to call “assault rifles” and automatic machine guns. He stressed: one pull of the trigger, one round fired. Not that it helped…

Lowy asserted the Heller decision gave governments the right to implement “reasonable” gun control, despite the fact that it confirmed that the Second Amendment protects the individual right to keep and bear arms. Horwitz spoke about mental health and the need to keep guns out of the hands of complete nutbars.

Alexandria Police Chief Earl Cook was actually the most onerous. As Rob texted me during his speech, “This fat, donut-binging fuck has NO concept of why the Second Amendment is in there!” Rob was correct. The Chief started with a disclaimer about how he and most men in uniform are not against private citizens owning guns. And then came the rub: he merely wants a registry so he knows who owns them! Let me tell you what, fucker. I already passed a background check when purchasing my self defense tools. I’m a veteran and a law abiding citizen, so with all due respect, it’s none of your goddamn business what firearms I possess, where I keep them and why!

An hour of questions followed. As usual, Moran simply ignored the questions from pro-gun advocates and mumbled something about him not seeing the need for anyone to have assault weapons. The need.

I figured I’d give it a try, so I got up in front of the Mike.

I told them I am a veteran of the United States Army, and that I have deployed. An audience member screamed out “Thank you for your service!” and the room burst into applause. (I may have turned several shades of crimson and felt like I wanted to crawl under a chair.) And then I posed my question.

Me: I am a veteran of the United States Army, a single parent, and a concealed carry permit holder. I am trained and have passed background checks – a number of them. As Agent Chipman explained, an “assault” rifle fires one round with one pull of the trigger – just like the M1911 I carry with me. So how can you justify barring me from using a semi-automatic rifle that fires one round with one pull of the trigger, just like my handgun?

Moran: duhhhh…. I don’t see why anyone needs a rifle that’s meant to kill as many people as possible.

Me: With all due respect, it’s a Bill of Rights, not a Bill of Needs.

At that point, a fat, panty-shitting heinoceros turned to me and screeched, “WHAT ABOUT MY RIGHTS? I DON’T WANT TO SHOP IN THE SAME SUPERMARKET WITH YOU!”

I told her there was an easy solution to that. “Don’t go.”

After the formal part ended, I was looking to discuss something with the ATF agent offline, so I was wandering around, trying to see where he went. The blubbering koont came up to me and said, “Are you looking for me? You had a conversation with me, so I thought you were looking for me.” All confrontational.

I just shrugged and said, “you’re entitled to your opinion. I’m looking for the ATF guy.”

I love how this dickwart assumed I gave another thought to her existence! It was almost amusing… sort of. The bulging eyes… the screechy demeanor… I looked at her like she was a turd on my shoe that somehow managed to learn how to speak.

Updating with a more complete version of my question:

LC Light29ID from the Rott was there as well. His write-up is a lot shorter, but hilarious, nonetheless!

Just found a full video of folks confronting Jim Moran and him refusing to address the actual question.


17 responses

  1. Your hair looks good longer like you have it.

    Trying to explain freedom to roads and lizards is usually annoying. Thank you for trying.

    The chief sounds like the typical traitor of our times. To hell with him and all like him.

    Love you. 😉


    1. Thanks, bro. Love you too. In keeping the hair long, as Rob likes it, and I do too. 🙂

      The chief was an asshat. Even the ATF guy seemed a bit uncomfortable with what he said.


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  3. Seems to me they just declared war on the U.S. citizen. I would have toldhim so, and that we will keep our guns, and respond in kind.


    1. It was pretty fun. And 29ID has a loud as shit voice too!


  4. Thanks for trying Nicki even though it’s just about useless to argue with a jackass donkey. As the Emperor said in his last post, They have been warned; the blood that’s to come is on THEM.



  5. My reply: “I think your doctor would agree you could afford to lose a few pounds. And I don’t shop after 8PM; and more people can avoid you after dark”.


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  8. Nicki,

    When I first saw this hit the news, I thought of you because you had previously mentioned Moran would be having his gun control forum. And he did. And you were there.


    There’s nothing I can say about this that hasn’t already been said, or that isn’t blatantly obvious. Moran=clueless. Simple.


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  10. Nicki,

    Well, guess what? It has finally been determined that Adam Lanza, yes that Adam Lanza, was…wait for it…batshit crazy. Yep. It wasn’t a gun. It wasn’t his mother. It was him, the whole time, who was responsible for killing those innocents in Sandy Hook.

    We tried telling the anti-gunners to wait until all the facts came out, but did they listen? Nope. It was too tempting for them to jump on the emotional bandwagon and vilify guns, gun owners, etc, etc. Tedious lot they are.

    Oh the delicious vindication.


    1. Well, I’m shocked! SHOCKED I tell ya!

      Mind if I blog it and give you appropriate credit, of course?


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