NINETEEN executive orders? (UPDATED)

Politico reports this morning that the White House is preparing 19 separate Executive Orders on guns.

The executive actions could include giving the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention authority to conduct national research on guns, more aggressive enforcement of existing gun laws and pushing for wider sharing of existing gun databases among federal and state agencies, members of Congress in the meeting said.

NINETEEN.

The claim is that the proposals will focus on enforcement of existing laws.  But at the same time the White House is set on proposing another ban, including scary-looking black rifles and “high-capacity” magazines, which the corrupt politicians claim the populace doesn’t need.

Additionally, this has me curious. It is the legislature’s constitutional duty to pass laws, but yet, everyone is urging the White House to “do as much by executive order as possible.” This ultimately means that the White House knows its gun-grabbing agenda will not pass the legislature, and likely will be challenged as unconstitutional in the courts. So it’s being encouraged to do everything it can to subvert the system and circumvent the Constitution.

UPDATE: Meanwhile, at least some in the GOP are on a warpath. DC Caller reports that there are threats of impeachment if the President tries to implement new gun control laws by executive fiat.

Texas Republican Rep. Steve Stockman threatened Monday afternoon that he would file articles of impeachment against President Barack Obama if he institutes gun control measures with an executive order.

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“I will seek to thwart this action by any means necessary, including but not limited to eliminating funding for implementation, defunding the White House, and even filing articles of impeachment,” Stockman said in a statement.

I wonder if the GOP will actually have the balls to do it.

35 responses

  1. I actually hope the Traitor in Chief tries to do it by Executive Order. It’ll activate more patriots and initiate impeachment proceedings.

    It’ll also blatantly expose his desire to be a dictator and circumvent our form of government.

    Once impeachment proceedings begin, the entire list of reasons to impeach this communist traitor can be addressed.

    It will also enable us to address quite a few other unconstitutional Executive Orders.

    So I say, bring it on. Get out your pen, asshole. Try it.

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    1. I doubt anything will happen, quite frankly. I used to think that a bunch of people would stand up and do something. Now I just think most Americans will roll over and do what they’re told. Notice the election results. *shrug*

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      1. I disagree, Nicki. This traitor has activated quite a few people. Look at the gun sales numbers just of those going through NICS. Record-breaking. New people are buying firearms for the first time.

        There’ll be a backlash if he tries the EO.

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        1. Buying guns doesn’t necessarily mean there will be mass resistance of any kind. I think most are hoping to purchase them now before new laws come into effect, so that they’ll be grandfathered. Just a thought. I’m a pessimist.

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    2. I have yet to see in anything you have written that allows you to call yourself “a patriot” you are anti american, anti constitution. America has voted twice and in each case elected Obama president. He is the chief executive and executive privilege has been used by even George Washington. Only twice has an executive privilege been overturned by the court. Using executive privilege was used by Bush 298 times and by Obama not near as often. Use of executive order is not an impeachable offense so lets hope the president gets things rolling.

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      1. And I have yet to see anything you have written that proves you have common sense or reading comprehension in any way. You’re a moron. Have a nice day.

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  2. PS. I DARE this human crud to try to say gun ownership is a “disease” for the CDC to regulate.

    Dare.

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  3. No, but the CDC could use statistical tricks to make it appear that people who report depression are a danger and should never, ever, ever own a gun.
    Now, how many people do you know have been on anything for depression? Depression is exceedingly common. Honestly, how can you NOT be depressed when you scan the political/economic/social environment?
    And, this is a tried and true mechanism for totalitarian regimes to rid themselves of those pesky dissidents. Call ’em crazy and lock ’em up.

    I would urge you NOW to not respond when docs ask about guns in the house. They’re already doing it. Don’t answer the question.

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  4. Why do you think he became a Constitutional Lawyer. Not so he could Protect and Defend the Constitution of the United States as he will once again sewar to do. No he became a Constitutional Lawyer just so he could figure out loopholes and work anounds to thwart the Constitution.

    I don’t think our so-called “Representatives” have the balls to actually represent the people who elected them At least not the ones in leadership positions. So no, they don’t have the balls to do it.

    It is going to take maybe a class action citizen’s lawsuit against congress (for not being a check on executive power and against POTUS for abusing his executive power in an unprecedented overreach.

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  5. Slavery and Gun Control two issues that divided our country. Slavery resulted in a civil war with the proponents losing, a large section of our country destroyed and 650,000 citizens lost their lives for an issue that would have gone away within 50 years. Gun Control activists have yet to draw a line on the issue . The Supreme Court has recently extended the second amendment and the public will not lose their guns so the issue becomes what type of gun should the public have access too? If some “Americans” want a civil war over semi-auto weapons and or the size of the magazine I believe that they are seriously overplaying their cards. Most Americans are opposed to large magazines including the polls among NRA members. >These folk are spread out and not localized like the South in the civil war. Do citizens really want a civil war over such a trivial issue when there are so many other resolutions to this issue. Gun banning is not gun control. The gun rights folk have had it their way for a long time and look where we are today. It is apparent that a change is needed and will happen.

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    1. What part of “shall not be infringed” is not clear?

      Frankly, most Americans don’t know the difference between a clip and a magazine, so I don’t really give a ripping red fuck what kind of gun they think I should have access to. The answer is any goddamn gun I see fit.

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    2. Gus,

      I look forward to any attempt to enforce your proposed legislation against me.

      I only wish it were you coming to try it.

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  6. >The supremes gave a very limited decision on “shall not be infringed” . You know that you can’t carry an automatic rifle or pistol without a very special and costly license. So your answer any ……..gun I see fit is just lame bravado. Many Americans don’t care about your guns except that they can’t be turned easily into rapid fire killing machines at a whim. The supremes did not invalidate the initial statement of the Second Amendment ” In order to have a well regulated militia” so it could rule when challenged that gun owners must participate in the militia. The court could also change its decision as it has done several times; one of the most famous was the Dred Scott ruling. So I guess you may be faced with the decision to be a law abiding citizen or moving to Somalia.

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    1. You know that you can’t carry an automatic rifle or pistol without a very special and costly license.

      Yeah. I can. It’s a $200 tax stamp. Nice try.

      Many Americans don’t care about your guns except that they can’t be turned easily into rapid fire killing machines at a whim.

      Paranoid much? Why don’t you tell us how many crimes are committed with automatics each year. Bet you can’t.

      The supremes did not invalidate the initial statement of the Second Amendment ” In order to have a well regulated militia” so it could rule when challenged that gun owners must participate in the militia.

      Ever read the US Code? Title 10. Chapter 13. Militia Composition and Classes.

      -STATUTE-
      (a) The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied
      males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section
      313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a
      declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States
      and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the
      National Guard.
      (b) The classes of the militia are –
      (1) the organized militia, which consists of the National Guard
      and the Naval Militia; and
      (2) the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of
      the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the
      Naval Militia.

      That would be… oh… EVERYONE.

      Now, let’s examine the phrase “well regulated.” Do you know what the founders meant by this? They meant “well maintained and trained.” Want proof? Federalist 29.

      To oblige the great body of the yeomanry, and of the other classes of the citizens, to be under arms for the purpose of going through military exercises and evolutions, as often as might be necessary to acquire the degree of perfection which would entitle them to the character of a well-regulated militia, would be a real grievance to the people, and a serious public inconvenience and loss.

      The court could also change its decision as it has done several times; one of the most famous was the Dred Scott ruling. So I guess you may be faced with the decision to be a law abiding citizen or moving to Somalia.

      I’ll cross that bridge when I come to it. In the meantime, you’re wrong, and as long as you are, you may now shut it.

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  7. In response to Gus , the war of 1861-1865 has been mistakenly called a civil war for too long . A civil war is when 2 entities are fighting to take control of a gov’t. It should be called the ” WAR BETWEEN THE STATES ” . The South did not want to take over the Union , they wanted to secede from it . The issue of slavery was used to whip up emotions in the North .

    Nikki made the gun argument a lot better than myself so I’ll let that issue alone .

    Anybody dumb enough to vote for the H.N.I.C.one time and admit it is bad enough . But to witness what has happened to this country over the last 4 years and then vote for the son of a bitchin’ commie bastard again AND ADMIT IT AGAIN !!!!!!!! Doesn’t say a whole lot about mental capacity …..

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  8. “And I have yet to see anything you have written that proves you have common sense or reading comprehension in any way. You’re a moron. Have a nice day.” “So the ragweed says to the rose”. I can see that you pick and choose the parts of the US Constitution that taken out of content fits into your tiny gun control mentality. I said that the American people have twice elected President Obama to office and not by a narrow margin. The supremes in the Heller case gave the public the right to carry arms in public and in Justice Roberts majority opinion opened the door wide for the government to determine what kind of arms those might be. To be critiqued my you because you have yet to see in what I have written any common sense or reading comprehension only shows your inability not mine. Common sense is used to transmit physical perception into thought but perception is not truthful unless accompanied by education and research in the matter perceived. My reading comprehension accompanied with experience in Constitutional Law and the degrees that go with it reveal that you have absolutely nil knowledge of the law or the spirit of the law and only want to boost your ego by defying authority. Calling people names is the first admission that your basic argument is seriously flawed. I always have a nice day!

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    1. You seem to forget you failed to answer any of the points I made about the 2a and proceeded to call me anti-American and anti-Constitution in reply. So your whining butthurt about name calling rings hollow. I don’t give a flying fuck about how many degrees you claim to have. You’re still an idiot when it comes to this subject. Feel free to go away.

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  9. Japoa: The War between the States….The War of Northern Aggression….or whatever you want to call it started well before 1861. Every single State that seceded in their letter of secession listed slavery as the primary reason for doing so. Bloody Kansas in the 1850 was fought over slavery in new territory. The Kansas/Nebraska Act concerned only one item Slavery. The primary property of the South was the slave. The southern states on the east coast stopped the importation of slaves so that they could sell the slaves they were producing to the southern states in the west. Remember General Lee got the Union Flag shoved up his ass at Gettysburg…Thats in Pennsylvania I do believe and was trying a back door to Washington D.C to conquer the North. Why were they trying to leave the Union, I guess it was the big debate about boiled peanuts, or perhaps serving grits up north….Sorry I called then peanuts we all know they are really ” Goobers”.

    The American people voted for our American President yes and they did it twice and in accordance with the American Constitution. I don’t know what country you hail from and once again you may be a patriot there but here you are a radical extremist exhorting a overthrow of a legally elected government.

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  10. Nicki you stated “any gun I want” I replied that you couldn’t without a special license and permit. You answered Yea I can with $200 and a stamp. Perhaps you need to read the restrictions from not only the Feds but your state and local laws. I want to see you carry it in a local parade or mounted on the back of your pickup. Please send photo’s when you do so.
    You then turned the auto issue around asking how many people are killed with auto’s you knew the issue being discussed by us was when I said that americans are concerned about turning guns into rapid fire killing machines. That covers semi-autos capable of 20, 30, 50, 65, 100 magazines.

    You comments on Militias was very incomplete, looked somewhat scholarly but left out the components that didn’t support your view. Very dishonest to your readers. I will include these now:

    The organized militia created by the Militia Act of 1903, which split from the 1792 Uniform Militia forces, and consist of State militia forces, notably the National Guard and the Naval Militia.[2] The National Guard however, is not to be confused with the National Guard of the United States, which is a federally recognized reserve military force, although the two are linked.
    Constitution – Article II – The Executive Branch Section 2 – Clause 1:The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States when called into the actual service of theUnited States. [Article 2,Section 2 of the US Constitution]…
    The reserve militia[3] or unorganized militia, also created by the Militia Act of 1903 which presently consist of every able-bodied man of at least 17 and under 45 years of age who are not members of the National Guard or Naval Militia.(that is, anyone who would be eligible for a draft). Former members of the armed forces up to age 65 are also considered part of the “unorganized militia” per Sec 313 Title 32 of the US Code.[2]

    Please note Nicki that the President is the Commander in Chief of all militia organized or not.

    The reserve militia
    All able bodied men, 17 to 45 of age, are ultimately eligible to be called up into military service and belong to the class known as the reserve militia, also known as the unorganized militia (10 USC). Able bodied men who are not eligible for inclusion in the reserve militia pool are those aliens not having declared their intent to become citizens of the United States (10 USC 311) and former regular component veterans of the armed forces who have reached the age of 64 (32 USC 313). All female citizens who are members of National Guard units are also included in the reserve militia pool (10 USC 311).
    Other persons who are exempt from call to duty (10 USC 312) and are not therefore in the reserve militia pool include:
    The Vice President (also constitutionally the President of the Senate, that body which confirms the appointment of senior armed forces officers made by the Commander in Chief).
    The judicial and executive officers of the United States, the several States and Territories, and Puerto Rico.
    Members of the armed forces, except members who are not on active duty.
    Customhouse clerks.
    Persons employed by the United States in the transmission of mail.

    Workmen employed in armories, arsenals, and naval shipyards of the United States.
    Pilots on navigable waters.
    Mariners in the sea service of a citizen of, or a merchant in, the United States.
    Many individual states have additional statutes describing their residents as part of the state militia; for example Washington law specifies all able-bodied citizens or intended citizens over the age of eighteen as members of the state militia, as explicitly distinct from the National Guard and Washington State Guard.[43]

    My statement about all of us being activated or called by the draft if we are gun owners is not wrong. It is possible if only remotely so.

    I am well educated at least those institutions who issued my degrees thought so. Over 5 years served on a police department taught me a lot about folks. Twenty nine years working in technical science, and project management required me to continue my education to stay on top of my field of studies. Since retiring my hobby is restoring WW2 battle rifles and weapons. I have a collectors of curios and relics license. I am a member of an excellent shooting club and firing range and fire on a weekly basis. I know as does most shooters and gun owners that the current law is in need of change and that responsible gun advocates need to take part in the on going discussion. As always I will have a good day…I wish you well.

    Some of the above was taken total from internet sources as well as the Harvard Law review. I thank those contributors.

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    1. a) I know plenty of folks who carry automatics in the backs of their trucks to shoots and such. I also know what you need is an FFL and a $200 tax stamp from the Feds. Gun laws differ by state, but we’re discussing federal laws right now.
      b) The number of rounds in a magazine does not turn a semi-automatic into a “rapid fire” killing machine. A semi automatic fires one round with one pull of the trigger. I would think you’d know that. If I want. I can pre-load ten 10-round mags, and it takes less than two seconds to switch them out. I would think you’d know that as well. That’s why I thought you were referring to automatic weapons.
      c) My comments about the militia are complete. You obviously missed the point of what I was saying. We are all part of the militia (with a few exceptions). The Founders have reiterated that fact several times. The point was and remains that the militia should have the same weapons as the regular army.

      Who are the militia? Are they not ourselves? Is it feared, then, that we shall turn our arms each man against his own bosom. Congress has no power to disarm the militia. Their swords and every terrible implement of the soldier are the birthright of Americans.

      — Tench Coxe

      Again, I don’t care about your education credentials. You still seem to be reading-impaired. I know plenty of folks without actual degrees who are just as intelligent as my counterparts with graduate degrees. And you don’t need to prove anything to me. Your litany of degrees doesn’t impress me. Common sense does.

      I never denied that Obama was reelected. Never denied he’s commander-in-chief. I quoted a news source that said several GOP legislators are talking impeachment if he pushes through unconstitutional edicts via legislative fiat. I didn’t say anything about the success or failure of those efforts. I would be happy if they got some balls and would do it, though.

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  11. Nicki I didn’t fail to respond but was researching your reply about 2A. I am not looking for your absolution or approval but I would like to see your anger controlled so that your header to this site which says:
    “A blog about guns, politics, freedom, entertainment, and generally anything and everything else, written by a well-armed veteran with an extensive vocabulary, the ability to make up inventive invective, a bad attitude and a high IQ”.
    is effective and truthful. You exhibit some of the traits, show vulnerability, certainly bad attitude when facing validity. Inventive invective is an unusual conjunctive between an adjective and a noun perhaps like creative abuse. I liked it however. Flying fuck could certainly do with some up grading with your high IQ and extensive vocabulary it so you could say outdated. Plato certainly wanted the gadfly to go away but I find persistence a virtue. I am having a good day.

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    1. Condescend much? You’re not my daddy, and you’re not my teacher. I don’t need lessons in vocabulary or critique of my use of invective. And by the way, “upgrading” is one word.

      If you want people to take you seriously, you might stop with the pompous self-aggrandizement and pedantic harangue.

      This conversation is over.

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  12. So a 1903 law creating the National Guard allegedly wipes out the 1791 Bill of Rights?

    Prove it by trying to disarm the citizen militia.🙂

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  13. Great to see another woman blogging on this!

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  14. Yea Scott just as laws were changed to allow a standing Army that was forbidden in the Constitution. Perhaps you want to do away with the defense department because its not in the Constitution .

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  15. Great catch Nicki on up grading it was your only one all day. Typing errors do happen. I’m condescending only in your case because I expected more than insults from you. Excellent use of your thesaurus today shown by your expanding vocabulary from “flying fuck” to “pedantic harangue”. Just imagine how much you could teach others by expressing your concepts in a style worthy of your intellect. I express that seriously America needs intellectual discourse and that is not patronizing on my part. Most people take me seriously and at my age I enjoy a serious exchange I don’t have much time left to do otherwise. I find using this media it is far to easy for users to express opinion based on ignorance and then when faced with a respondent with a valid opinion telling them to take a flying fuck instead of issuing a responding rebuttal. I would rather continue a dialogue based on a search for an answer without mutual insults. I admit that I don’t understand the paranoia that many younger adults exhibit and that is why I question some of the rage I find on these blogs. As you say this conversation is over. I will have a good day. I hope you do also.

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    1. Dude, shut your cock holster. You’re really becoming quite tedious. Are you really here just to litter my site with your not-so-pithy blather?

      And by the way, you ostentatious assbag – punctuation is your friend. Use it. Learn to love it.

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      1. “I’d say that was rather less cordial than he was used to.”
        –Braveheart

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      2. Your replies to issues have fallen into criticism of my misspelling upgrading and a critique of how I diagram my sentences on this highly academic blog you must certainly be Sister Merry Grammar using a pseudonym.
        “My theory is that all women have hydrofluoric acid bottled up inside,” Kurt Vonnegut said that and he didn’t even know you….Amazing. Your use of vulgarity is simply a tactic you use when your unstructured syllogistic reasoning is torn apart. The examples are strewn about this blog with insults then vulgarity or vulgarity and insults and finally vulgar insults. “Dude, shut your cock holster” isn’t even creative but plagiarized from a Red Foxx recording from the sixties. Your constant use of vulgarity is boring and absolutely ineffective against me but if it boosts your defense mechanisms and makes you feel better you should go for it but even better discuss it with your psychologist on Friday. I am having a good day. Ta Ta for now.

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  16. Turns out it was 23 Executive Orders, of course. He found four other ways to say “enforce existing laws and deal with the mentally unstable.”🙂

    I don’t like the way doctors could be used nefariously by an angry ex to impugn the character of a gun owner. But most of his EO’s seem more to agree with gun rights advocates than to oppose us. He even kinda looked defeated, like he already knew he wasn’t going to get any gun laws passed.

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  17. Your review: Les Mis – oh, the beauty! I’m not in any way being condescending is excellent, well written and supports the view that done correctly each media form brings distinct expression to the patron. Your writing talent is only diminished by the vulgarity used in most of your comments and not enhanced. I know you don’t give a “flying fuck” what I think. I will have a good day and I hope you have one too.

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    1. I’ve known her for well over a decade and told her the same thing before, Gus.

      But where else do you hear the words “fucknozzle” and “douchebaggery” in the same sentence that ends with “cock holster”?🙂

      I believe she’d get it out of her system if the University would hire her to teach a course called “Inventing New Disparagements: Stop Being a Sheep-licking Ass-twat and Originate Your Own Brand New Insults.”

      But she scares the faculty too much. LOL!!

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  18. Scott, Nicki is an extremely talented person. I would seriously recommend her and she should include in her resume her review of Les Mis. Her ability to transmit emotion in script should lead her to publishing a book about a subject she is passionate about. Whatever subject she would choose fiction or non fiction would be readable. I’m afraid to compliment her because I don’t like be labeled as condescending. I don’t like to see talent wasted on goobleygump. I would like to see her do a piece on deadbeat fathers or how to really love your children, subjects that are dear to her heart. Her combining of inventive with invective was for me at least an effective calling card to this site however my compliment was interpreted as condescending. Wish her well for me. Once again Scott thank you.

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    1. Gus, your assessment of Nicki’s talents and passions is spot on.

      Your only error is in not listening to her perspectives on firearms rights. She was born in the Russian Realm. She saw what “only the police and military have guns.” Her wisdom came at a price heavier than many of us can imagine.

      In any event, wherever you are this evening, I hug you from afar and bid you well, Gus. Truly.

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